Hydro winch setup questions
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Hydro winch setup questions
alright off-road guru's.....i got one for ya.
As most of you know from previous posts I have a really crappy Ramsey (yes Buzz it is crap!) winch and am looking to get rid of it...prolly just throw it away, lol.
i am looking at an older Ramsey hydraulic winch on the back of a tow truck. it seems it has never had any problems and looks as if it still works (spool still freespools easily). My questions is if I get it off what would I need to do to hook it up? I have never messed with a hydro winch before but from what I have read I tap into my p/s pump and it pumps off that. think I could order the adapter kit from MileMarker and it might work? any suggestions, links, or tips would really help me out.
the reason i am interested in it is b/c i have wanted to try a hydro winch and I know the owner of the place pretty well (he has pulled me out more than once, lol) and I think he would give me a pretty good deal. i will gfet some pics of it tonight and post them up in my gallery!
thank again fellas
-jason-
As most of you know from previous posts I have a really crappy Ramsey (yes Buzz it is crap!) winch and am looking to get rid of it...prolly just throw it away, lol.
i am looking at an older Ramsey hydraulic winch on the back of a tow truck. it seems it has never had any problems and looks as if it still works (spool still freespools easily). My questions is if I get it off what would I need to do to hook it up? I have never messed with a hydro winch before but from what I have read I tap into my p/s pump and it pumps off that. think I could order the adapter kit from MileMarker and it might work? any suggestions, links, or tips would really help me out.
the reason i am interested in it is b/c i have wanted to try a hydro winch and I know the owner of the place pretty well (he has pulled me out more than once, lol) and I think he would give me a pretty good deal. i will gfet some pics of it tonight and post them up in my gallery!
thank again fellas
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thats awesome fishy. i wouldnt mind havin hydro, however, like you i dont know a hell of a lot about em 
...probly why i dont have one. all i know is that they are real beasts. i think you will probably need to do alot of power changes to your truck depending on how thirsty the sucker is. i think ivans new setup is awesome. you may want to designate separate power components to that winch! ive heard they can run off ps pumps too. i wonder if u would need a bigger pump? u still running a stock one? just a thought! sorry i cant help ya much on the subject tho.
while on the subject of winches...anyone know where i can get a winch for my atv?? got dogged out in our mudhole and pushed/dug/throttled it out myself...in cakey a$$ mud that went well above my knees. usually those situations are fun, but i was hardheaded enuff to go through it like 5 times which means i had to do all that 5x! plus i just built a new trail on the side of a huge hill and toward the bottom is a huge sink hole and crick! would be cool to have insurance
-Tim
...probly why i dont have one. all i know is that they are real beasts. i think you will probably need to do alot of power changes to your truck depending on how thirsty the sucker is. i think ivans new setup is awesome. you may want to designate separate power components to that winch! ive heard they can run off ps pumps too. i wonder if u would need a bigger pump? u still running a stock one? just a thought! sorry i cant help ya much on the subject tho.while on the subject of winches...anyone know where i can get a winch for my atv?? got dogged out in our mudhole and pushed/dug/throttled it out myself...in cakey a$$ mud that went well above my knees. usually those situations are fun, but i was hardheaded enuff to go through it like 5 times which means i had to do all that 5x! plus i just built a new trail on the side of a huge hill and toward the bottom is a huge sink hole and crick! would be cool to have insurance
-Tim
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Jason, I have very little personal experience with hydro winches but one thing I do know is they tend to really heat up your fluid (friend had one) so be sure to install a fluid cooler when you put it in or you'll burn up your poor stock Ford pump. Actually you may want to consider buying a cooler/filter combe like the one sold by Howe, only not that much money. Call Sean (Station) and see what he can hook you up with, should only run about $30 through him if I remember right.
Or thought #2 is to run a seperate Saginaw pump for the winch, several guys are doing this. To be honest though I doubt it's really that necessary as you're generally not going to be doing a lot of steering while you pull. And I hate more clutter than is needed.
Or thought #2 is to run a seperate Saginaw pump for the winch, several guys are doing this. To be honest though I doubt it's really that necessary as you're generally not going to be doing a lot of steering while you pull. And I hate more clutter than is needed.
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I would upgrade to the canned ham (saginaw) and add a cooler like Ivan mentioned. It'll shorten the life of your pump a little but safeguards like the saginaw and cooler should make it pretty happy. I love the power of hydro...just not the fact that if your engine is dead so are you. Sounds like a plan Fishy...
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ok i feel stupid for asking this but if i were to go looking for a saginaw pump what vehicles would i look for? is any one model better than another?
I think i am gonna go ahead and put a saginaw pump and aux cooler on my truck anyways, what the hell! keep me busy!
-jason-
I think i am gonna go ahead and put a saginaw pump and aux cooler on my truck anyways, what the hell! keep me busy!
-jason-
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Pretty much any GM vehicle or older (late 70's early 80's) Ford car, the big boat type. Also late 70's Ford vans used these pumps. If you can find a van with the same size engine as yours the bracketry will bolt right up, that's your best bet if you can.
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ok, so how do i tell a difference? will it say saginaw somewhere on it?
(sorry for the ignorance)
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(sorry for the ignorance)
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Fishy, I call it a canned ham, because the pump is litterly the size and shape of a canned ham. Black, all metal of course. Nothing like our stockers. Mines from a van but Ivan told you the other places to look.
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guess i will look for one tom! thanx guys. that helps a lot! where you think i should mount the hydraulic lever? i was thinking in the cab, but i dunno!
-jason-
EDIT: o yea....and how should i go about plumbing this beast? will the adapter kit from MM work?
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EDIT: o yea....and how should i go about plumbing this beast? will the adapter kit from MM work?
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Originally Posted by momudder720
I'll bet that adds 100 hp all by itself!
I was going to put a Saginaw in my truck but got sick of fighting with bracketry. I just put in a $12 stock pump to hold me over until I can find a van with a 460.Jason, I couldn't tell you what to do with the plumbing but I've found that it's typically easier just to take your whole setup to a hose/hydraulic shop and let them sort it out. Otherwise you're always screwing with fittings and matching threads up, etc. Can be a real PITA.