Notices

Priming new engine?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 10, 2004 | 02:04 PM
  #1  
stantojl's Avatar
stantojl
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Priming new engine?

So I finally got the rebuilt 4.6 in my 1997 F150 and its ready to go. I am ready to prime the engine. I have left off the plugs, wires, fuel rail/injectors and the drivers side valve cover. I also pulled the fuel pump fuse. From what I have read and been told, to prime the engine you crank it via the ignition and the starter until the oil light goes off and the gauge registers a pressure or until you see oil coming up into the top of the drivers side head. My question is how long do you crank the engine? Do you crank it intermittently for a bunch of short times or continuously for longer periods of time? I don't want to burn up the starter.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2004 | 11:26 PM
  #2  
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 22,436
Likes: 17
From: Louisville,Ky.
About 30 sec at a time is recommended for starter life. 30sec, cool 2min.
I would go with the oil to the head, the light may not go out while cranking.
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2004 | 07:00 PM
  #3  
stantojl's Avatar
stantojl
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
I cranked it for 15 to 30 seconds at a time then would let it cool for a few minutes. I did this for about 45 minutes. I never got any oil into the top of the passenger head nor did the the gauge budge. I did manage to fry the starter though. Could anybody that has done this before tell me how long it took them to get oil. Seems to me that the oil should have been flowing. Anybody have another method for priming a rebuilt engine, or any advise? Guess I'll pick up a new starter tomorrow.
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2004 | 10:30 PM
  #4  
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 22,436
Likes: 17
From: Louisville,Ky.
I'm not sure on these new things without a dizzy to remove to insert a shaft with a drill.
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:28 PM
  #5  
Cheggie's Avatar
Cheggie
Elder User
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 559
Likes: 0
From: South Carolina
Hard to find

Another way to prime the oiling system is use a pressure tank plumbed into an oil gallery - these don't seem to be too common tho...
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2004 | 06:44 AM
  #6  
stantojl's Avatar
stantojl
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
I have heard about that but I can't find any additional info on how it is done and what is used.
 
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2004 | 08:55 AM
  #7  
stantojl's Avatar
stantojl
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
I got the engine primed so I thought I would follow up on how I did it. Pulled the oil filter and filled it with oil, reinstalled the filter and cranked the engine. Still nothing. Pulled the oil filter and left it off. Poured oil into the passage in the center of the oil filter housing using some tubing and a funnel. Had a buddy hold his finger over the hole while I cranked the engine to see if he felt any pressure building. Still nothing! Pulled the oil filter housing off the block. Poured oil into the passages that lead to and from the filter housing (two passages). Had buddy hold fingers over passages while I cranked engine to see if pressure builds up. BINGO! Oil is pumping. Repeated procedure just to make sure. Put oil filter housing back on. Installed oil filter and cranked engine. Oil pump is primed and pumping oil.
 
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2004 | 02:27 PM
  #8  
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 22,436
Likes: 17
From: Louisville,Ky.
Thanks for the info, I'm sure that it will be helpful in the future
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:50 PM
  #9  
FTE Herman's Avatar
FTE Herman
Post Fiend
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,983
Likes: 2
I guess I would have pre-lubed the friction surfaces during assembly and just started it up?
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 10:58 PM
  #10  
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 22,436
Likes: 17
From: Louisville,Ky.
I have done a few like that with no adverse effects.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 06:59 AM
  #11  
stantojl's Avatar
stantojl
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
I had several people tell me to "just fire it up, it'll be fine". It's hard to say whether the oil pump would have caught its prime or not. I suspect that it wouldn't have because of how much I had to do to get it pumping. I guess it is one of those things that 9 times out 10 its fine, but theres always that "one time". Seems like that "one time" usually happens to me.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:19 PM
  #12  
stantojl's Avatar
stantojl
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Heres some interesting info: When I was doing research on how to prime the oil pump I came across an article (I think it was on the Amsoil website) that was about oil pumps losing their prime after a normal oil change. It said that it has been known to happen that during a normal oil change the pump can lose its prime or become air locked. Resulting in major engine damage. It recomended always watching your oil pressure gauge after the initial start up. I know I have done hundreds of oil changes and never seen this. I usually watch the gauge but from now on I will make sure I watch the gauge a little closer.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:02 PM
  #13  
LxMan1's Avatar
LxMan1
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 22,436
Likes: 17
From: Louisville,Ky.
I always watch the gauge/light and immediately check for leaks. I had a filter one time years ago that the gasket stick to the engine and it was in a spot that I couldn't see very well and I just turned the filter upside down in the drainpan to empty it, and when I started the car, It blew oil everywhere from the double gasket. I now always watch the gauge and when I see pressure, I look underneith to make sure it is sealed.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
lmnr0026
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
5
Nov 25, 2008 11:01 AM
RabidJade
Fuel Injection, Carburetion & Fuel System
24
Sep 15, 2008 02:12 PM
rankhankyellow
Performance & General Engine Building
6
Mar 9, 2006 12:51 AM
78bigunns
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
18
Aug 19, 2003 01:53 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE