Notices
Audio & Video Systems, Navigation, Satellite Radio & Mobile Electronics
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

Help !!! Inverter install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 03:58 PM
  #16  
NiNjA DoC's Avatar
NiNjA DoC
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
From: Sin City
Originally Posted by acerockola77
What gauge of wire are you using?
its 8 guage
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:01 PM
  #17  
NiNjA DoC's Avatar
NiNjA DoC
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
From: Sin City
Originally Posted by jmoschetti45
I have a 500W one. I ran 4-guage cables directly to the battery. The inverter is mounted under the passenger seat. I put a 60A fuse on the + line and mounted the fuse block next to the power distribution box. Works perfectly. I never used a body ground. Just I have to reach under to turn it on/off when I need it.
thats pretty much simular to what I did, althought i mounted mine under the back seat, im wondering if the length is a problem, i used approx 15 feet of cable from the back seat to the battery...
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:59 PM
  #18  
jmoschetti45's Avatar
jmoschetti45
New User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Marquette, MI
I highly doubt the length would have any effect. Have you tested the inverter by directly hooking it up with like a foot of cable?
 
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 10:30 AM
  #19  
MrBSS's Avatar
MrBSS
Posting Guru
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,673
Likes: 0
From: Chicago Area
The non-current carrying ground would have no effect on normal operation; it's a safety factor only.

My inverter manufacturer specified a maximum of 5 feet for the power supply leads, but I don't see how that could prevent output completely. I guess I'd try a short cable like jmoschetti suggested.
 
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 10:56 AM
  #20  
jmoschetti45's Avatar
jmoschetti45
New User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
From: Marquette, MI
Safety factor?? What good would it do?
 

Last edited by jmoschetti45; Apr 13, 2004 at 11:01 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 12:21 PM
  #21  
ANdrewdrice's Avatar
ANdrewdrice
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 669
Likes: 0
From: Chino Valley
I am in the process of puting mine where the ash tray is, I dont smoke and dont allow others to smoke either, so, wasted space as far as Im concerned. I just put the wires through the firewall and stripped the wires, and clipped one into the pos wire and one on the neg wire. works fine
 
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 08:05 PM
  #22  
94F150-408's Avatar
94F150-408
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 1
From: Northern California
I have a 1500w and it also specified both a ground cable to the battery and a smaller wire being attached to a body ground.

Your ground wire going directly to your battery shoud be the same gauge as your positive lead.

The minimum recommended gauge wire for a 800w inverter running a 15 ft length power lead would be 4 gauge.

Your fusing requirements would be 75 amp (66.6 amp draw at 800w) this gives you a slight amount higher for start-up draw of your appliances plugged into your inverter.

On the extension cord set-up... Verify that your inverter has a GFCI as part of the outlet in the inverter unit.Only hook up an extension cord when you use it and then disconnect it. Extension cords are not ever meant to be used for hardwiring. Check for the mfgs. instructions for your inverter on the net under the mfgs website. You might be able to hard wire in additional plugs in other locations if your unit has the GFCI and provisions for the additional plug wiring.
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2005 | 02:20 PM
  #23  
neilc88's Avatar
neilc88
Elder User
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 536
Likes: 1
From: Cleveland, OH
94F150-408,

I also have a 1500 watt unit that I need to install. What gauge wiring and fuse did you use?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old May 5, 2005 | 03:34 PM
  #24  
94F150-408's Avatar
94F150-408
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 1
From: Northern California
Hey Neil,

I used 1/0 for the 1500w unit, as per the mfg instructions. The fuse for this is a 250 amp I believe.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2005 | 11:09 AM
  #25  
cangim's Avatar
cangim
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,595
Likes: 0
From: Utah County, UT
Originally Posted by NiNjA DoC
...it didnt come with the traditional cig plug, it has the aligator type clips to go directly to the battery...
Have you verified that you inverter works using the supplied aligator clips? Could be the inverter and nothing to do with the wiring. Also, 8 gauge will work for low wattage items, don't know if you can take it back or not, but I would run 4 gauge for an 800W inverter.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2005 | 03:00 PM
  #26  
94F150-408's Avatar
94F150-408
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 1
From: Northern California
cangim, 8 gauge wire will not carry the amperage needed for a 800w inverter .I know you said yopu would use 4 g but its a bad idea to recommend to anyone to use undersized wiring ie "its ok to use 8 gauge wiring if your only going to use it with low wattage items", its a potential fire waiting to happen. Use the right size wire for the job or dont do it!
 

Last edited by 94F150-408; May 7, 2005 at 03:02 PM.
Reply
Old May 7, 2005 | 11:38 PM
  #27  
cangim's Avatar
cangim
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,595
Likes: 0
From: Utah County, UT
Perhaps I worded it wrong, I was not, nor would I recommending running 8 gauge wiring, if all they are doing is running a laptop it would work, but as you stated it is a fire hazard , and the proper size wiring should alway be used, that is why I stated that I would use 4 gauge for an 800W inverter.
 
Reply
Old May 10, 2005 | 11:59 AM
  #28  
neilc88's Avatar
neilc88
Elder User
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 536
Likes: 1
From: Cleveland, OH
Originally Posted by 94F150-408
Hey Neil,

I used 1/0 for the 1500w unit, as per the mfg instructions. The fuse for this is a 250 amp I believe.
Thanks for the response. How many feet of wire did you have from the battery to the inverter?
 

Last edited by neilc88; May 10, 2005 at 12:06 PM.
Reply
Old May 10, 2005 | 01:24 PM
  #29  
glafond's Avatar
glafond
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: White Lake
Be careful about grounding the inverter to the body.
The ground strap from the engine to the frame is not intended for
that amount of current, and on these newer vehicles the manufacture is skimping on the battery negative cable guage.
P=EI power (in watts) = Volts * Current.
A typical 1000watt inverter would require as a minimum 4AWG wire
directly to the battery posts. The longer the run, the larger the guage.
I Run a 3000watt inverter in my toolbox, with 5 Deep Cycle batteries wired in
parallel, 4AWG wires from each battery directly to the inverter, less than 6' and there is still a noticeable voltage drop.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:45 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE