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What configuration will give me the most tow power for a 5th wheel weighing 9 - 10,000 pounds. I prefer to stay with F250 as opposed to F350. Prefer gas to deisel. Know very little about engines and ratios, etc.
thanks for your help.
I have a '99 brochure, don't know if things have changed for 2000 or not but here is what is listed in the chart for "maximum loaded trailer weight - auto transmission"
If you are looking at a manual transmission, the weights are slightly different, pretty much the 3.73 gears w/manual tranny will haul a couple hundred pounds less, while the 4.30/w manual tranny will haul just about the same as automatic (this is still according to the chart in the '99 brochure).
The 2000 specs are the same as the 99. But the weights for 5th wheel towing are slightly higher than the chart doug sent you, because the hitch pin weight is centered over the axle.Your dealer should have the tow ratings for your truck. On my 2000 SD250 Crew cab V-10 4x4 the fifth wheel rating is approx.11,300 versus 10,800 for conventional towing. The V-10 will pull like a dream with the weight trailer you are looking at. I pick up my new fifth wheel in a couple weeks and it weighs 10,500 fully loaded(GVWR). By the way the 350 does not have any more towing capacity than the 250. Only more payload capacity in the bed.
Ranger,
I have a 2000 CC/ 4x4 / auto / 3.73 on order and I was interested in your set up, cab & gears. What mpg are are you getting unloaded?
Thanks in advance for any info.
BA
BA,
My 2000 is a Lariat, Crew Cab, V-10, Short Bed, Auto, with 3.73 gears. I just turned 2000 miles and am getting 12mpg in the city and 14-16mpg unloaded on the highway. This is according to the factory trip computer, but Ive found it to be fairly accurate. Mileage seems to be getting better as I get more miles. This tank is showing 14 in the city so far.(1/2 empty) You are going to love your truck, I love driving mine.Congratulations and enjoy.
Charlie,regarding the towing capacity of your 250 SD, I have a 99 Lariat 4x2 Supercab with a shortbed. It has the V-10 with a 3.73 axle. My Seahawk 5th wheel weighs in at 9860, not counting the 'stuff' I have in it. The first thing I did was get a K&N air cleaner in it. Pulling the trailer in and around Michigan is not a problem. Milage is between 8.5 and 10.2 while towing. Without I get 12.6 to 11 mpg. It pulls well, but I'm wondering why the horsepower in the V-10 Excursion is rated at 310, while my V-10 is rated at 275? What's different about the engine that they achieve more hp? Is it the chip, or air intake? Any answers would be greatly appreciated. I want more ponies!!
The 2000 V-10 engine is 310 horsepower in the Super Duty also. It was increased from the 275 that your '99 has in it, just like the V-8 was increased from 235 to 260hp. I am not exactly sure what Ford did to increase the hp. but I have heard something about the intake was changed.
Doug, thanks for the info regarding the difference in horsepower between the '99 and '00 V-10. It would be nice to have the extra ponies. The K&N filter I installed when new made a bit of a difference; not as much as it did in my '95 150. But when pulling a fifth wheel, although it does well with what I have, would be great for the extra power. I guess it's on to a different exhaust next. thanks again.
Two words...Banks and Banks. Banks has a header-catback kit that adds some good power. Something like 40hp and 60'tq at the rear wheels. Second, you'll need a Bank to pay for it. About $1500. You could also try a Superchip (about $400) and a good catback(Gibson, Borla, Dynomax... about $300-$400)
V-10 man,
Thanks for the info. I can't spend $$$ on a Banks system. I do get a couple of RV mags, and that system is advertised frequently. I was thinking more in line with Borla, Flowmasters, or Dynamax. The chip wouldn't be a bad idea, but do you have to go to premium gas with that? Pulling my 5th wheel and getting 8-10mpg is ok with me, but would my mileage increase, or just the power output increase.
thanks ...
From what I've read, the chip is only adding about 5% in fuel economy. Not enough to offset the added cost of premium fuel, but close. Nothing is free right? It does do some good things though which might make it worth it. I have the Borla. It was a little pricey. Don't expect much of a noticable gain. Most cat-backs only add about 7-15 hp. The Borla is a very well made product. It has a louder than stock sound, really only noticable when along side a wall or other object. There is no deep rumble to the sound. a-1performance.com has a Dynomax, dual, out the back, kit for $259.95. I paid about $380 plus shipping for my single 3" Borla. I think they have a dual kit also. The Borla is stainless steel while the Dynomax is aluminized steel.
Doug's chart should get you going. You didn't mention what cab configuration you wanted (that needs to be taken into account when looking at weights).
Would you consider a diesel? The new Navistar diesel in the Ford is one of the best light-truck diesels available. It has more usable torque (90 more lb-ft.) at lower RPM than the V10. Torque is the number that you have to look at; it is what gets you going from a start, it is what propels you when passing, etc.
The diesel has been vastly improved over it's last iteration in Ford's trucks, it's much quieter, more powerful, has better fuel mileage (20 mpg vs. the V10's 14), produces alot less smoke than the old version, requires less warm-up time, has a shorter turbo-lag than the last model, and will last much longer (heck, it's not even rated for a full rebuild till 200,000 miles! The V10 won't even last that long!).
I know that I'm pushing the diesel, but I feel it is a superior engine. The only problem though is that it is a full $4500.00 more than the gas V10. When you weigh the savings in fuel-efficiency and longevity, I think it is worth it. Who knows, if taken well care of, the motor could outlast the body!
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