Anyone with a Tymar who has had an oil analysis, after installation will you please post the silicone levels?

Thanks in advance,
JR

 

Read here. Jack has been collecting OA data for a couple of years. he has some Tymar users.

This is a big file, so it takes some time to download:

http://members.aol.com/fmtrvt/OilStudy/73current.pdf

 

Here is the data from the file above. I copied the silicone data into an excel spreadsheet and performed a simple average (mean) on the numbers. Note the sample sizes are different so the comparisons may not be real accurate, however I believe you can use trend analysis on the data. I will first post the data and then my conclusions.

FAC (Factory?) Mean 66.6 Median
WD Mean 15 Median 11.5
PUR (Only 2) Mean 14.5 Median 14.5
MC (only 6) Mean 11.6 Median 11.5
AMS2 Mean 23.74 Meduian 20.5
AFE Mean 14.75 Median 15
1710 Mean 12.15 Median 10.5
1750 Mean 13.7 Median 13
K&N Mean 23.98 Median 11
AFE Mean 14.75 Median 15
AIS (Only 4) Mean 10.25 Median 10
Tymar Mean 7.06 Median 7
UMP (Only 2) Mean 6 Median 6

There were numerous samples that did not indicate what air filter was installed. Also the trend with the K&N was that when it was cleaned and oiled by the user it had much better results. I took the median since there were large numbers outliers to some of the data, which may be attributed to improper installation.

I would like to know what type of filter the UMP was and I would also like to see more data. I would like to see more data on the Tymar since I only had 16 results, and the K&N had 44 results. Either way the Tymar was a clear winner at reducing silicone in the engine.

Note: I am assuming the FAC is factory if so - CHANGE YOUR FACTORY AIR FILTER IMEDIATELY THEY SUCK!!!

Second Note: The K&N Oiled media perforemed better than most plain air filters. Therefore the conclusion that you cannot get greater flow without compromising filtration is wrong.
JR

 

I ran the stock air box and the K & N filter (oil type) for 27000 miles in my PSD and changed oil every 3000 before I sent in my first oil sample to Blackstone.

I inspected and serviced the K & N (cleaned, dried, light oil) at the same 3000 mile intervals as my oil changes.

My Blackstone report showed below universal average in every itemized element they tested and considering the mileage, age, etc.

The Silicon level with the K & N was 7 and Blackstone has a 10 for the universal average.

I installed an AIS and an oil bypass in the past few months and will be doing another Blackstone test in about 4000 miles. I'll post the results.

 

It's a honkin' big paper element filter like the Tymar, but it uses a housing and a snorkle like the AIS.

Here is a pic:

http://www.uniquemetalproducts.com/fordtruckins.jpg

 

I don't know that this is necessarily true. Did the K&N filters use the stock airbox or were they a complete intake system? It's common knowledge that the factory airboxes are junk which could explain why some of the paper filters came back with poor results. In order to give this comparison any validity we need to know which filters were used with the factory airbox and which were not.

 

johndiesel I disagree. The factory air boxes are junk, however look at how pitiful the factory filter performed. The fact that the K&N was always better than the factory installed filter, shows that you can get more airflow with better filtration than some paper elements.

Also those results do not indicate air flow, just the silicone levels in the oil.

 

I think you missed my point. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but in order to make this study valid you need to know which filters were drop ins for the factory airboxes and which were complete air intakes. It does make a huge difference. The poor numbers for the factory filters could be from the poorly sealing factory airboxes allowing dust past the filter, not through a faulty factory filter. From a scientific standpoint this comparison is not valid without this information.

 

I will agree with you on a complete scientific analysis point of view.

I will say looking at these numbers you are much better off going with a new air box, than a drop in filter.

At this point, I don't even have a Tymar but they should be paying me for advertising......

 

I definately agree with that.

 

Yes, but did you read this?

 

Thanks for the info John!

 

I don't know what FAC stands for on that list, but I do know that the 1710 and the 1750 are both factory filters, depending on which airbox you have.

 

I hate to play dumb, but where do you get the A.I.S?

 

From Ford.