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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Timeing question, cause a few are asking.

Should have a thread for this qustion.

A few asked. "How do I slightly advance my timeing on my 302?"

I personally would like to know. cause mines running like kaka.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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You can do this several ways. 1st way is diconnect the spout connector, loosen up the distributer clamp hold down bolt with a half inch wrench. Start your truck , grab your timing light and turn the dizzy clockwise to advance it. Check on you timing mark and advance it to 14* . It should run pretty good there.

Or you can do it like I do it. With the engine OFF loosen the dizzy clamp hold down bolt and turn it clockwise just a little bit at a time. Tighten the bolt down, start your truck and take it for a test drive and make sure there is no engine ping with deep throttle. Repeat the process until you hear faint pinging and back it off just a little bit.

You can run more timing advance with premium fuel but with gas prices like they are I backed mine off a bit so I can regular unleaded.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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Geart!!! thanks!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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yea. most people dont ahve a timeing light.

I know probably 3 or 4 people who have one that i could use, but not everyone has access to that.

i think i'll try the second solution.

ill have to find out what a dizzy clamp is though.

i'm adjusting the cam arnt i?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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It's the clamp that prevents the distributer from moving. It is triangular shaped with a half inch bolt on top. I get tired of typing in distributer
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Talyn,

I went to the same school as 95 F 150 did. I've been turning wrenches on my vehicles for over 25 years and never owned a timing light. I've always timed my vehicles by ear. My ears have never let me down.


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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Amen brother
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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I wish that was possibal on my motorcycle. lol.

now that you said distrubutor i know what your talking about how. haha.
thats friggen easy as crap to do. lol.
just one bolt holds it down and you turn the damn thing.

had to turn mine to put a part in my car.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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That sounds easy as hell, I wish others described it as this...I am getting pinging but I assume that it's because my motor is due for a tune-up...Does Timing "Mis-Align" after time or is it something you have to adjust for the aging of the motor itself?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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There are other uses for timing lights besides setting the base timing.

You can use one to check and see that the timing is advancing correctly in relationship to RPMS.

You can use it for setting the TPS. The TPS automaticly bumps the timing up about 10 degrees when you move the throttle off idle. If it's set too close the engine will be 10 degrees advanced when its supposed to be idleing possibly causeing a high idle........ If it's set to far your engine will may hesitate for a split second when you apply the throttle.
It should be set so that only about 1 1/2 or 2 degrees of throttle movement cause the timing to bump up.

You can also use it to show your friends that your fan blade is barely moving and try to see it they reach out to touch it...... ha ha ha. just kidding.

Also......... there are some cars (non Ford) that have distributors that go in only one way and only have X amount of movement for adjusting the timing. ....... And if your not able to set the timing to spec because you don't have enough play in the distributor movement. .... it automaticly means that the timing belt has jumped or the last mechanic put the belt in a tooth off. Try figuring that out without a timing light.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Oh yeah , I forgot I can't spell distributer - I graduated from high school 20 years ago LOL.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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yea, I was told a timeing light should be used to adjust it.
A friend of mine is master mechanic, i have him help me with it.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by 95 F150
You can do this several ways. 1st way is diconnect the spout connector, loosen up the distributer clamp hold down bolt with a half inch wrench. Start your truck , grab your timing light and turn the dizzy clockwise to advance it. Check on you timing mark and advance it to 14* . It should run pretty good there.

Or you can do it like I do it. With the engine OFF loosen the dizzy clamp hold down bolt and turn it clockwise just a little bit at a time. Tighten the bolt down, start your truck and take it for a test drive and make sure there is no engine ping with deep throttle. Repeat the process until you hear faint pinging and back it off just a little bit.

You can run more timing advance with premium fuel but with gas prices like they are I backed mine off a bit so I can regular unleaded.
Does this procedure apply to 1996 EEC-V trucks?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:41 AM
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I am not trying to start a heated discussion on this timing subject, but I would like to just add my opinion. Using the timing light is always the best way. No don't get me wrong, I have in the past done the time to ping and back off thing, but it wouldn't work in my truck now. There is a knock sensor mounted in the engine block. This is there to hear the ping (predetonation). As soon as it does, which is way before you could from the drivers seat, it retards the timing to stop the pinging. Now if you advance the distributor enough, there is not enough retard built into the computer to stop it. So you will then hear it. If you locked it down right there and then hooked a timing light to it, you would probably have about 20 to 25 deg of initial timing, which is way too much. I keep mine set at 12 with the spout pulled, and have had the best results there. I know this was long winded, but it is the way I do it.. Good luck, and let us know how you end up doing it.....Later.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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To be honest. I belive timeing light is the best.

But i do know you can do it without.
Its just more dangerous for people who havn't changed the timeing on their truck before.

I know on a precision machine like my motorcycle, you HAVE to use a timeing light, or you will screw things up really bad. Specially since i have aftermarket ignition, not standard harley ignition.
 
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