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[QUOTE=FTE Fred]I thought, kind of applicable...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ir_n3J5ABA[/QUOTE]
That was fantastic!!!
BF, I agree. You cant beat Europe for their rail system. I rode the Eurostar between Paris and London years ago. What an experience that was. Funny thing was, at that time, it could only go high speed through France. The rails in the UK were not up to the high speed standard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ir_n3J5ABA[/QUOTE]
That was fantastic!!!
BF, I agree. You cant beat Europe for their rail system. I rode the Eurostar between Paris and London years ago. What an experience that was. Funny thing was, at that time, it could only go high speed through France. The rails in the UK were not up to the high speed standard.
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I always thought trains were neat and I still love watching freight trains run.
However around here they have closed a lot of tracks. All they haul around here is coal anyway. Norfolk-Southern & Conrail on one side of the river. CSX used to be on the other side, stopped using the tracks, sold em to the state and they were torn out and turned into a rail trail (which now runs right by my office)
Along the Ohio river it's a bit more interesting due to all the chemical factories in that corridor.
If anyone here's been to the Strip District in Pittsburgh...it's pretty amazing as you can walk around and see all the clues to the "days gone by" when the railroad was king. There is a GIGANTIC Pennsylvania RR freight terminal that has been turned into stores (serviced by trucks of course). There are still rails in/along the street in many places and you can see how several of the buildings were actually laid out around the railroad tracks (especially in satellite pictures). The tracks are pretty much all gone now, aside from a few sidings at small industrial buildings in the area. Kinda makes me sad to see them all gone now.
But I digress
However around here they have closed a lot of tracks. All they haul around here is coal anyway. Norfolk-Southern & Conrail on one side of the river. CSX used to be on the other side, stopped using the tracks, sold em to the state and they were torn out and turned into a rail trail (which now runs right by my office)
Along the Ohio river it's a bit more interesting due to all the chemical factories in that corridor.
If anyone here's been to the Strip District in Pittsburgh...it's pretty amazing as you can walk around and see all the clues to the "days gone by" when the railroad was king. There is a GIGANTIC Pennsylvania RR freight terminal that has been turned into stores (serviced by trucks of course). There are still rails in/along the street in many places and you can see how several of the buildings were actually laid out around the railroad tracks (especially in satellite pictures). The tracks are pretty much all gone now, aside from a few sidings at small industrial buildings in the area. Kinda makes me sad to see them all gone now.
But I digress
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Originally Posted by rednekrailroader
General Train passing procedure:
1. Train A enters the siding and stops.
2. Train B passes Train A via the main line.
3. Once Train B passes, Train A is only allowed to leave the siding
after obtaining permission from the train dispatcher, either
verbally over the radio or by trackside signals (giant boards
with lights).
Not really sure if this helps....
1. Train A enters the siding and stops.
2. Train B passes Train A via the main line.
3. Once Train B passes, Train A is only allowed to leave the siding
after obtaining permission from the train dispatcher, either
verbally over the radio or by trackside signals (giant boards
with lights).
Not really sure if this helps....
I'm talking major system information about railroad operation.
How "everything" is correlated/coordinated and carried out within the whole network of the railroad.
I am familiar with numerous rail yards (Alyth and Ogden yards in Calgary.)
I also have about 12 trains go through town every day and I live about 500 ft from the tracks.
We also have several sidings in our immediate area (within 15 miles)
I know engineer's/and other staff (per region) only travel so far down the line.
In western canada for instance.
Calgary to Medicine Hat (180 Miles)
Calgary to Field (130 miles)
Field to Revelstoke (125 Miles)
Revelstoke to Kamloops ( 1xx Miles)
Kamloops to ?
etc
Last edited by Mil1ion; Sep 24, 2007 at 12:35 PM.
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Originally Posted by bf250
i lived in europe for 3 years and loved the train system they have there. its quick, efficent, cheap and gets a person anywher they want. combine that with the bus services and a person can really get anywhere, even to the smallest village.
i have traveled back and forth across the whole of europe on train, it is fairly simply systme to interpret, do not even need to know the language, and the trains were always on time.
it would be great to have that system here, but the infrastructure costs would be huge, and something even bigger would be getting over the culture barrier we have with using cars as our primary mode of transport. but of course the non hub centric layout of many places now days almost makes it next to impossible.
i have traveled back and forth across the whole of europe on train, it is fairly simply systme to interpret, do not even need to know the language, and the trains were always on time.
it would be great to have that system here, but the infrastructure costs would be huge, and something even bigger would be getting over the culture barrier we have with using cars as our primary mode of transport. but of course the non hub centric layout of many places now days almost makes it next to impossible.
The only downfall was when they were on "work to rule"...in 1972 that sucked.
14 hours to go 225 miles.
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Originally Posted by Mil1ion
Calgary to Medicine Hat (180 Miles)
Calgary to Field (130 miles)
Field to Revelstoke (125 Miles)
Revelstoke to Kamloops ( 1xx Miles)
Kamloops to ?
etc
Birmingham, AL to Montgomery, AL (100 miles)
Montgomery, AL to Mobile, AL (182 miles)
Montgomery, AL to Pensacola, FL (162 miles)
As far as major system information, the yardmasters/trainmasters tell the train dispatchers when they will be able to take any inbound trains. The train dispatcher tells the yardmaster/trainmaster when he will be able to run any outbound trains. Due to hours of service laws, any outbound may be forced to wait to depart until the short-time trains can get in the yard. The yardmaster/trainmaster calls crews to work according to when they can run the train, while the dispatcher adjusts the movement of the inbound to aline with the time the yard can take the train.
This is how I was told it works, not real sure because I was just a grunt.
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still looking for the Logisitics in railway operation
meanwhile ..train lovers see this.
http://travel.canoe.ca/Travel/Microg...es/TrainTrips/
meanwhile ..train lovers see this.
http://travel.canoe.ca/Travel/Microg...es/TrainTrips/
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The logistics lie in the already established rail system (thanks to slave labor). There are many large coal mines in this area, and one went out of business because of the lack of rail transport from the mine to a power plant here in town.
There is plenty of demand for rail transport here, especially with the $3/gallon cost of diesel and ethanol demand up which can offset the cost of a marginal wheat crop. Its all about money.
There is plenty of demand for rail transport here, especially with the $3/gallon cost of diesel and ethanol demand up which can offset the cost of a marginal wheat crop. Its all about money.
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For those of you that can get it, the History Channel will be showing Modern Marvels: Freight Trains tonight at 8pm EST. They ought to have at least a little info on the operation of the systems. Your local times might be found on zap2it.com , or the History Channel site.
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