289, will it work?
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289, will it work?
what is the fire order for a 289, and how do i tell what it came from. I want to use it in a 89 Bronco but I have several questions #1 the 289 has a front sump on it and dont know if it will clear on the Bronco
#2 will the flywheel from the 5.0 Bronco (Automatic Tran) fit the 289
#3 the 289 has had some work done on it and has 351W heads
what would be the best way to go for intake. should I use the Injection system (will it fit or work) or should I go carburated the 289 has a tunnel ram right now.
#4 what about the engine sensors and ECM will they work for a 289
#5 whats the fireing order on the 289?
#2 will the flywheel from the 5.0 Bronco (Automatic Tran) fit the 289
#3 the 289 has had some work done on it and has 351W heads
what would be the best way to go for intake. should I use the Injection system (will it fit or work) or should I go carburated the 289 has a tunnel ram right now.
#4 what about the engine sensors and ECM will they work for a 289
#5 whats the fireing order on the 289?
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thanks i think i also need to use the truck 5.0 timeing cover the 289 has a mechanical fuel pump and a reverse water pump i think not sure then there is the oil dipstick problem that is on the front of the 289 with no hole like the 89 5.0 in the lt side of the block
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hi
to answer questions
1. need a 302 bronco oil pan,
2. the flywheel will bolt up, check 289 bell housingpattern, the 289 may have a 5 bolt pattern, the newer 302s have a 6 bolt pattern
3. it would be difficult to put the fuel injection on that motor if you r planning on putting the original fuel injection system on it. the 5.8L heads will not fit the 5.0 fuel injected intake, the ports are different i would change the heads if going fuel injected
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there are no internal sensors on the 289 so the computer would not have anything to read, no sensor on the crank, you could add a crank from a 302 with a sensor on it, but it wouldnt be a 289 any more, also depending on the 5.8L heads they may not have the correct passage for the air pump and emmisions end of it
to answer questions
1. need a 302 bronco oil pan,
2. the flywheel will bolt up, check 289 bell housingpattern, the 289 may have a 5 bolt pattern, the newer 302s have a 6 bolt pattern
3. it would be difficult to put the fuel injection on that motor if you r planning on putting the original fuel injection system on it. the 5.8L heads will not fit the 5.0 fuel injected intake, the ports are different i would change the heads if going fuel injected
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there are no internal sensors on the 289 so the computer would not have anything to read, no sensor on the crank, you could add a crank from a 302 with a sensor on it, but it wouldnt be a 289 any more, also depending on the 5.8L heads they may not have the correct passage for the air pump and emmisions end of it
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umdstang will the Dist from the 5.0 EFI fit the 289 and when i change the time cover i will loose the dipstick tube its on the lt side block of the 5.0 but no hole on the 289 block it does have the 6 hole bolt pattern on the bell housing will the starter bolt up the same
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i dont know about the distributor is should fit weather it works that is a different story
the starter should bolt right up
i dont know what to tell you about the dip stick unless you get a dipstick that is the correct length you could tap a hole in the oil pan and use that as a dip stick
hope that helps
the starter should bolt right up
i dont know what to tell you about the dip stick unless you get a dipstick that is the correct length you could tap a hole in the oil pan and use that as a dip stick
hope that helps
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ok i figure i will drill the Bronco time cover to match the dipstick location for the 289 the EFI intake will bolt right on to the 351W heads the only problem is there is no AIR tube mounting holes so I will remove the smog junk from what i have read is that if it isnt hooked up it wont mess with the way it runs the biggest problem i see is that im not sure if the cam will run in the EFI system and dont know what the cam specs even are in the 289 all the sensors and electronics should bolt right up to the 289 except the Knock sensor there isnt a hole where the 5.0 was but i think i can relocate to a different spot anyone have any comments to what i have said is it logical or am i wrong?
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The flywheel will have a diiferet balance. 1982 and up are 50oz and pre 1981 is 28 oz. If your 89 has a roller cam then you will need to change the dizzy gear as well.
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RTM the flywheel or the harm balancer? because im useing the harm balancer to the 289 and the 5.0 was a standard non roller truck dist the original dist to the 289 has a forged gear just like the 5.0 so i think i can use the 5.0 dist
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I have had this engine just sitting in the way for a few yrs now and need to find a place for it so when the Bronco came along with the bad engine thought i might as well try it. the Bronco time cover has a reinforced spot where it was cast for the dip stick exactly like the 289 so i drilled it for the tube if i find the oil level for that pan then i will just cut the stick to match everything else is going together great just not sure hoe it will run with the injection and no AIR tube
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That won't work because your oil level is in the back part of the pan not the front if your running the rear sump pan which I am sure you have to on a bronco frame. You also have to replace the oil pump and the oil pump pick up tube and to do that you need one of the mani cap bolts that has the stud on it for the pick up tube. Again this is if the front sump pan will not fit which I think it won't. Changing timing covers does not fit this problem.
Yes the fly wheel and the balancer are different. They go hand and hand with the crank shaft. You can not take a 50 oz flywheel or the balancer and install it on a pre 81 motor. It will shake your teeth when you start it.
Yes the fly wheel and the balancer are different. They go hand and hand with the crank shaft. You can not take a 50 oz flywheel or the balancer and install it on a pre 81 motor. It will shake your teeth when you start it.
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Here's some more news, learned the hard way
Do not use a rear-sump pan from a 351 with the dipsick on the side. The diameter of the rear main is bigger and the pan does not fit a 302.
Find a 79/81 Mustang or Fox-bodied car pan. 82 up will not work because they changed the block to accommodate the side dipstick and the pan has NO provision for a dipstick.
Or. you will end up like me, moving the riveted-on dipstick boss from your 351 pan to your smooth 82 Mustang pan.
Wish someone had told ME this.
RF
Do not use a rear-sump pan from a 351 with the dipsick on the side. The diameter of the rear main is bigger and the pan does not fit a 302.
Find a 79/81 Mustang or Fox-bodied car pan. 82 up will not work because they changed the block to accommodate the side dipstick and the pan has NO provision for a dipstick.
Or. you will end up like me, moving the riveted-on dipstick boss from your 351 pan to your smooth 82 Mustang pan.
Wish someone had told ME this.
RF