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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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Angry Weird Starting Problems

I have a 1988 Ford F Super Duty at work that has a 460 with a ZF 5 speed transmission.

The problem we have is you turn the key over and all you hear is a click from the solenoid. So, we get out of the truck and cross the solenoid with a screw driver and it starts right up. I thought it had to be the solenoid. So I swap it out with a BRAND NEW one that we have. Turn the key over and the engine starts up BUT it keeps trying to turn over even after you let go of the key. So I disconnect the battery and it shuts down. I thought maybe the new solenoid was sticking so I replaced it with another NEW one that we had. It did the same thing. So we put the old one back on and have been using a screwdriver for the last week but want it fixed.

Parts that have been replaced recently: ALL battery cables, new starter, and battery is good.

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-Matt
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Did you try and start it with the hood open, or closed ?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Both ways. Does it make a difference? Or am I missing something?

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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Apparently you missed seeing the humour


Try another solenoid
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Ah! Maybe I am a little slow.

What are the chances of 2 Motorcraft solenoids being bad? Maybe I can swap one out of another one of our work trucks that I KNOW works. I will try it and see what happens.

Thanks a Mil1ion!

Oh great! Now it's contagious! DOH!

-Matt
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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It's possible that the ignition switch could be bad, and not shutting off the 12V going to the solenoid.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Well, I went and got ANOTHER solenoid. I had the exact same problem. After I cranked it, it would still crank after I let go of the key. So I RAN out and unhooked the negative cable. Tried again but this time I unhooked the little wire that sends the signal to the solenoid and it still cranked. I have no idea what the problem is. Any help?

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P.S. Mil1ion: I tried with the hood open and closed. No difference.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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If that is still cranking when you remove the wire going to the
*S* terminal, Faulty Solenoid

What brand are these solenoids ?
 
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That's exactly what it does. They are Motorcraft.....all ordered at different times...

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Anyone else?

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Try something besides motorcraft.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Try something besides motorcraft.


Noooo!!! Thats like me saying my F150 is broken so go try a Chebby!
I was actually thinking of trying an aftermarket one because that is what is on there now. We shall see. Thanks.

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Get one from Echlin.
 
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Old May 12, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Well I am a a little embarassed! <img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_18_5.gif' border=0></a>
Took the truck to the mechanic today (have been starting the truck with a screwdriver for the last couple months!) and it's all fixed.

Apparently, it makes a difference what side the cable FROM the battery and the cable TO the starter go on the solenoid! DUH! If it is hooked up backwards then the first time you start the truck it "welds" the inside of the solenoid parts together then it will keep cranking. Never knew that. Well, a new solenoid and some $ and all is fixed. Hope it helps someone else!

-Matt
 
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Old May 12, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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And here we thought you knew what you were doing along

From now on it's photos we only go by *Grin*
 
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