Newbie questions
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Newbie questions
I am new to this forum , and considering purchasing a new Ranger. Since my Ranger knowledge is somewhat limited, I am looking to the experts for some help. First, does anyone know when the Ranger is scheduled for a new model changeover, just as took place with the F150 in 2004.
Now with that out of the way, I have been looking at the 2004 4X2 models. Does the 3.0 with manual trans have enough power for everyday driving with limited trailer towing? Is the 4.0 worth the extra money? What other options would you want?
Thanks for your help.
Now with that out of the way, I have been looking at the 2004 4X2 models. Does the 3.0 with manual trans have enough power for everyday driving with limited trailer towing? Is the 4.0 worth the extra money? What other options would you want?
Thanks for your help.
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I have a '98 3.0 Manual and a '98 4.0 Auto. I bought the 4.0 Auto to gain some more towing power. Both are 4x4.
Automatics have higher tow ratings than manuals in these trucks, from what I've read because Ford doesn't want you burning out the clutch and claiming you were towing within spec. If you are only towing something light, like 2 snowmobiles or motorcycles now and then, you should be alright. I am towing a 1500lb trailer with a 2500lb car on it, so I wanted the headroom. There is a link to the towing spec in the Technical Information thread at the top of the forum listing.
I am trying to sell my 3.0 Manual (because I don't need two trucks), but I drive it at least twice a week to run a little gas through it. I am always impressed at how peppy and fun it is to drive compared to the 4.0. Yeah, the 4.0 has more power in the end and will keep going past 80 up a hill if you need it, but that 3.0 has plenty of getting up to speed power when unweighted. I must admit though, I haven't tried towing with it.
-Jim
I have a '98 3.0 Manual and a '98 4.0 Auto. I bought the 4.0 Auto to gain some more towing power. Both are 4x4.
Automatics have higher tow ratings than manuals in these trucks, from what I've read because Ford doesn't want you burning out the clutch and claiming you were towing within spec. If you are only towing something light, like 2 snowmobiles or motorcycles now and then, you should be alright. I am towing a 1500lb trailer with a 2500lb car on it, so I wanted the headroom. There is a link to the towing spec in the Technical Information thread at the top of the forum listing.
I am trying to sell my 3.0 Manual (because I don't need two trucks), but I drive it at least twice a week to run a little gas through it. I am always impressed at how peppy and fun it is to drive compared to the 4.0. Yeah, the 4.0 has more power in the end and will keep going past 80 up a hill if you need it, but that 3.0 has plenty of getting up to speed power when unweighted. I must admit though, I haven't tried towing with it.
-Jim
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Welcome!
There is no "new Ranger" on the horizon. The Ranger is not going to be re-designed anytime soon. The current style will remain for another 3-4 years, at least.
As long as you keep the towable weight within specs, the '04 model you are looking at will pull just fine. However, IMO you'll want to make sure it has a "limited slip" rear axle with a lower gear ratio (3.73 or a 4.10).
You can find the tow/weight specs for the '04 Rangers here (page 123):
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/OGP.../04ranog3e.pdf
There is no "new Ranger" on the horizon. The Ranger is not going to be re-designed anytime soon. The current style will remain for another 3-4 years, at least.
As long as you keep the towable weight within specs, the '04 model you are looking at will pull just fine. However, IMO you'll want to make sure it has a "limited slip" rear axle with a lower gear ratio (3.73 or a 4.10).
You can find the tow/weight specs for the '04 Rangers here (page 123):
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/OGP.../04ranog3e.pdf
Last edited by Rockledge; Mar 15, 2004 at 12:40 PM.
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Haven't driven a 3.0, but I love my 4.0L with manual trans. It's fast around town too, no doubt about that, and I love passing uphills doing 75 in fifth gear. Yes the towing rating and gross combined weight rating are lower than with the automatic. The gross combined weight rating for my truck is 7000lbs, and I weighed myself when I moved last week and the truck and trailer combined was 8,800lbs. Truck was 5100 and the trailer was 3700. The trailer was really more because I had a LOT of tongue weight. It pulled pretty good but the higher gears give it a little workout. Mostly just have problems in first gear, but I did okay with a new clutch. What do you plan on towing?
The 3.0L would probably be fine, but realize that the mileage will not be impressive. Some people say that they get the same mileage as my 4.0L. I say if the mileage is the same, or even close, go bigger and have power to spare. My mechanic has owned Rangers for years, used to have 3.0's and liked them. His new one is a 4.0 and he said he'll never go back. Something to think about
Like Rockledge said, you'll want a limited slip axle too, especially with 2wd. Report back with what you decide to do.
The 3.0L would probably be fine, but realize that the mileage will not be impressive. Some people say that they get the same mileage as my 4.0L. I say if the mileage is the same, or even close, go bigger and have power to spare. My mechanic has owned Rangers for years, used to have 3.0's and liked them. His new one is a 4.0 and he said he'll never go back. Something to think about
Like Rockledge said, you'll want a limited slip axle too, especially with 2wd. Report back with what you decide to do.
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Thanks everyone for your input. After reading the responses, it seems that the 4.0 is worth the extra investment, and won't let me down when I need it. I want the 5 speed and 3.73 rear end, and that may be hard to find. I checked all the dealers in the Dallas/Ft worth area, and nobody has that combo. Maybe a special order is in my future. Thanks all.
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Originally posted by jmelong
Thanks everyone for your input. After reading the responses, it seems that the 4.0 is worth the extra investment, and won't let me down when I need it. I want the 5 speed and 3.73 rear end, and that may be hard to find. I checked all the dealers in the Dallas/Ft worth area, and nobody has that combo. Maybe a special order is in my future. Thanks all.
Thanks everyone for your input. After reading the responses, it seems that the 4.0 is worth the extra investment, and won't let me down when I need it. I want the 5 speed and 3.73 rear end, and that may be hard to find. I checked all the dealers in the Dallas/Ft worth area, and nobody has that combo. Maybe a special order is in my future. Thanks all.
I have a 2002 extended cab 4X4 with 4.0L and manual 5-speed. (and yes, you want the 4.0L) Mileage is consistant 19mpg daily driving to work & back home, etc. Two lane roads, multiple traffic signals. Get 21+ mpg on straight Interstate/Freeway driving. Remember, that's with a 4X4 without any form of lock-out hubs or anything.
Now the kicker: I have a 4:10 "limited-slip" rear end!
If you intend on doing ANY towing, I'd advise the 4.10. My rpms never seem excessive for speed being traveled. And the gas mileage is fine, IMHO.
FWIW
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He's looking at a 2 wheel drive though. If it's the standard 2wd with smaller tires, the 3.73 should be fine, would probably be about the same as 4.10's with bigger tires. It it's an edge with bigger tires, go for 4.10.
I have a 4x4 with 31's and 3.73 gears, wishing I had 4.10's. I am REALLY wanting to put 32's on mine but refuse to, due to the gearing. So maybe you should go for the 4.10's if you plan on putting on bigger tires later (which you probably will)
I have a 4x4 with 31's and 3.73 gears, wishing I had 4.10's. I am REALLY wanting to put 32's on mine but refuse to, due to the gearing. So maybe you should go for the 4.10's if you plan on putting on bigger tires later (which you probably will)
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Originally posted by 98xlt4x4
He's looking at a 2 wheel drive though. If it's the standard 2wd with smaller tires, the 3.73 should be fine, would probably be about the same as 4.10's with bigger tires. It it's an edge with bigger tires, go for 4.10.
I have a 4x4 with 31's and 3.73 gears, wishing I had 4.10's. I am REALLY wanting to put 32's on mine but refuse to, due to the gearing. So maybe you should go for the 4.10's if you plan on putting on bigger tires later (which you probably will)
He's looking at a 2 wheel drive though. If it's the standard 2wd with smaller tires, the 3.73 should be fine, would probably be about the same as 4.10's with bigger tires. It it's an edge with bigger tires, go for 4.10.
I have a 4x4 with 31's and 3.73 gears, wishing I had 4.10's. I am REALLY wanting to put 32's on mine but refuse to, due to the gearing. So maybe you should go for the 4.10's if you plan on putting on bigger tires later (which you probably will)
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