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LSD Rear End
I am very interested in putting an LSD rear end in my truck. I have a couple of questions because I am not to familiar with this.
-I am not going to put 4.10's in (yet), so will I be able to do so in the future after installing the LSD?
-What brand would you guys recommend? I've heard of Auburn and that they are pretty good.
-Anyone know of a price on a good LSD rear end installed?
-Does it actually help out with traction that much? In other words, will it improve my launch?
And that's all I can think of for now. Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Joey
-I am not going to put 4.10's in (yet), so will I be able to do so in the future after installing the LSD?
-What brand would you guys recommend? I've heard of Auburn and that they are pretty good.
-Anyone know of a price on a good LSD rear end installed?
-Does it actually help out with traction that much? In other words, will it improve my launch?
And that's all I can think of for now. Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Joey
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Re: LSD Rear End
Joe, this is the small amount of info I have found out as far as LSD's:
Hope that helps lil Joey bear!
garrett
Originally posted by true4.2
I am very interested in putting an LSD rear end in my truck. I have a couple of questions because I am not to familiar with this.
-I am not going to put 4.10's in (yet), so will I be able to do so in the future after installing the LSD? Yes, you just need to disassemble the whole thing
-What brand would you guys recommend? I've heard of Auburn and that they are pretty good. Ive heard a great of good about Auburn (not rebuildable), Eaton (rebuildable & factory LSDs), and Powertrax (who I originally wanted, but found too expensive & rebuildable)
-Anyone know of a price on a good LSD rear end installed? Tom was saying around 600 for him with the powertrax, but I have also seen places advertise installs for much lower. The auburn was like 300 plus install, so that may be a good number. Check the texas motorsports, I hear they do installs as well!
-Does it actually help out with traction that much? In other words, will it improve my launch? It will help your launch, simply because if you DO spin, do tires will grab. In theory, you should be able to get out of that slip quicker
And that's all I can think of for now. Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Joey
I am very interested in putting an LSD rear end in my truck. I have a couple of questions because I am not to familiar with this.
-I am not going to put 4.10's in (yet), so will I be able to do so in the future after installing the LSD? Yes, you just need to disassemble the whole thing
-What brand would you guys recommend? I've heard of Auburn and that they are pretty good. Ive heard a great of good about Auburn (not rebuildable), Eaton (rebuildable & factory LSDs), and Powertrax (who I originally wanted, but found too expensive & rebuildable)
-Anyone know of a price on a good LSD rear end installed? Tom was saying around 600 for him with the powertrax, but I have also seen places advertise installs for much lower. The auburn was like 300 plus install, so that may be a good number. Check the texas motorsports, I hear they do installs as well!
-Does it actually help out with traction that much? In other words, will it improve my launch? It will help your launch, simply because if you DO spin, do tires will grab. In theory, you should be able to get out of that slip quicker
And that's all I can think of for now. Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Joey
Hope that helps lil Joey bear!
garrett
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Joe,
I'm suprised that you didn't just ask me this question. I've talked about L/s's and lockers all the time. And you know my Auburn is a piece of junk! I paid 350.00 for it and it's shot already, so is my brothers.
Any clutch style limited slip is going to perform like junk and wear out quickly. some can be rebuilt, others can't. The Auburn cannot be rebuilt so you need to dump a brand new one in every time you wear the clutches out.
This is what you should do Joe.
You mentioned that you were not, at this time, changing your gears. This is a great opportunity to save ALOT of money on installation.
Get the Powertrax NO-SLIP !!! It's a true locker and one of the latest in technology. It installs right inside your stock open diff and you can do it yourself. You can research and find them for 249.00. No clutches and no wearing out. It will last the life of your truck.
The difference between an l/s and a locker is that a locker actually locks your rear axles to a one to one ratio when you hit the gas. These give you the absolute best traction available. Plus, they don't wear out because they have no clutches.
The only advantage to a clutch l/s is that they feel practically non existant because the clutches slip so smoothly. These are good for mini-vans and soccer moms who need a little extra traction on the grass. If you buy a clutch l/s and do 3 or 4 burn outs, you'll kill it. Trust me, stay away from them.
POWERTRAX NO-SLIP installed into your stock open diff.
That is your only choice. I've done enough research to know.
visit www.eastcoastoffroad.com and call over there and ask for Darrin, tell him Tom from Boca sent you and ask him about the POWERTRAX NO-SLIP. That is his biggest seller and ALL they use in there personal off road vehicles.
If you buy anything else, your throwing your money down the toilet.
Trust me on this one, I know lockers and l/s's like I invented them myself.
tom
I'm suprised that you didn't just ask me this question. I've talked about L/s's and lockers all the time. And you know my Auburn is a piece of junk! I paid 350.00 for it and it's shot already, so is my brothers.
Any clutch style limited slip is going to perform like junk and wear out quickly. some can be rebuilt, others can't. The Auburn cannot be rebuilt so you need to dump a brand new one in every time you wear the clutches out.
This is what you should do Joe.
You mentioned that you were not, at this time, changing your gears. This is a great opportunity to save ALOT of money on installation.
Get the Powertrax NO-SLIP !!! It's a true locker and one of the latest in technology. It installs right inside your stock open diff and you can do it yourself. You can research and find them for 249.00. No clutches and no wearing out. It will last the life of your truck.
The difference between an l/s and a locker is that a locker actually locks your rear axles to a one to one ratio when you hit the gas. These give you the absolute best traction available. Plus, they don't wear out because they have no clutches.
The only advantage to a clutch l/s is that they feel practically non existant because the clutches slip so smoothly. These are good for mini-vans and soccer moms who need a little extra traction on the grass. If you buy a clutch l/s and do 3 or 4 burn outs, you'll kill it. Trust me, stay away from them.
POWERTRAX NO-SLIP installed into your stock open diff.
That is your only choice. I've done enough research to know.
visit www.eastcoastoffroad.com and call over there and ask for Darrin, tell him Tom from Boca sent you and ask him about the POWERTRAX NO-SLIP. That is his biggest seller and ALL they use in there personal off road vehicles.
If you buy anything else, your throwing your money down the toilet.
Trust me on this one, I know lockers and l/s's like I invented them myself.
tom
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YO!! DUDE.
READ THIS ARTICLE AND YOU'LL BE SOLD. TRUST ME.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
Tom
READ THIS ARTICLE AND YOU'LL BE SOLD. TRUST ME.
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
Tom
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Joe...re-read what I quoted..you just might see something. LoL. I wont comment until you READ my post!! LoL.
Garrett
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Garrett,
The powetrax is NOT expensive. 275 for the lock right and 375 for the NO-Slip. The nice thing is that you can install them yourself inside your open diff. This will save you 300 bucks on install. So, in essence, the powertrax is FREE when you compare it to a less expensive model that comes in its own carrier.
Detroit locker is my choice and runs for 575.00 plus 300 bucks install because it come in its own carrier and cannot be self installed. However, if I did have my stock carrier in my rear, I would no doubt toss the NO-SLIP in.
The powetrax is NOT expensive. 275 for the lock right and 375 for the NO-Slip. The nice thing is that you can install them yourself inside your open diff. This will save you 300 bucks on install. So, in essence, the powertrax is FREE when you compare it to a less expensive model that comes in its own carrier.
Detroit locker is my choice and runs for 575.00 plus 300 bucks install because it come in its own carrier and cannot be self installed. However, if I did have my stock carrier in my rear, I would no doubt toss the NO-SLIP in.
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Maybe I was thinking of the detroit locker...I could be wrong...Ive looked at soooo many bolt-ons I get confuzzled often. I appologize for any mixup!! I have an eaton, mainly cause it was cheap, and factory, and I can spend a weekend figuring out how to install it! LoL. I like tinkering like that. Joe, go with the powertrax!
Garrett PS, Tom check out this thread! Actually, I think its been deleted...but I remember someone telling me that I needed to get an auburn instead of a powertrax!! LoL
Garrett PS, Tom check out this thread! Actually, I think its been deleted...but I remember someone telling me that I needed to get an auburn instead of a powertrax!! LoL
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Yes I remember. However, in my defense, that was back in the day before I knew about lockers and how they worked.
Eaton makes alot of different ones, which one did you get?
I think this is the one you got, same as the Auburn except 2 things. 1) the Eaton is rebuildable. 2) The clutch plates are Carbon fiber.
2 bad things I forgot to mention about limited slips. 1) they don't work in reverse. 2) If one wheel comes off the ground, you will stop dead and that wheel will sit and spin forever. An L/S NEEDS resistance to work.
Is this the one you got??? http://www.reiderracing.com/eatonposi.htm
Tom
Eaton makes alot of different ones, which one did you get?
I think this is the one you got, same as the Auburn except 2 things. 1) the Eaton is rebuildable. 2) The clutch plates are Carbon fiber.
2 bad things I forgot to mention about limited slips. 1) they don't work in reverse. 2) If one wheel comes off the ground, you will stop dead and that wheel will sit and spin forever. An L/S NEEDS resistance to work.
Is this the one you got??? http://www.reiderracing.com/eatonposi.htm
Tom
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And Garrett, no offense but you can't install that yourself 
You'll need to take out the rind and pinion gears and re-align them. This is a precision job that requires special tools and lots of experience. If not done correctly, you'll need a whole new axle. So this will cost you at least 250.00- 350.00 to install.
tom
You'll need to take out the rind and pinion gears and re-align them. This is a precision job that requires special tools and lots of experience. If not done correctly, you'll need a whole new axle. So this will cost you at least 250.00- 350.00 to install.
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Plus, every time you need to rebuild it and replace the clutch plates, it will cost you another 250-300.00 bucks or more, to take it out, replace the clutches, then re-install it and re-align the ring and pinion. When referring to your rear end, anything that mentions "re-buildable" is simply not economical. Because in most cases it would cost the same to rebuild it as it did when you first installed it new. It's very labor intensive to install a carrier.
Tom
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p.s.
a locker or L/S will result in slight loss of RWHP. Known fact. Your engine horsepower is now being distributed amongst 2 wheels instead of one, therefore more loss in horsepower as it's transfered throught the powertrain from the crank. Trade off is more stick when you need it most, better launches also will make up the HP loss.
Tom
a locker or L/S will result in slight loss of RWHP. Known fact. Your engine horsepower is now being distributed amongst 2 wheels instead of one, therefore more loss in horsepower as it's transfered throught the powertrain from the crank. Trade off is more stick when you need it most, better launches also will make up the HP loss.
Tom
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Tom, thanks for all the help man. I like the POWERTRAX. It definately looks legit in my book. Hopefully I'll have it in about 2 or 3 months. I'm savin' money as we speak.
BTW, what quote were you talking about? The price?
BTW, what quote were you talking about? The price?
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I don't know what quote your talking about....(short memory)
I should have my Detroit Locker by then too.
Compare the ratings on the upper right hand side of the page.
Look at the poor rating on my Auburn, then click the other link and look at the rating on the Powertrax No-Slip, it has one of the best ratings out of all of them.
Auburn = http://www.reiderracing.com/auburngear.htm
Power Trax = http://www.reiderracing.com/noslip.htm
Detroit Locker = http://www.reiderracing.com/detroitlocker.htm
Of course the Detroit kicks butt accross the field, but it's expensive.
All lockers aren't the greatest for towing because they'll chew tires a bit while pulling a very heavy load. That's why all the lockers have low tow ratings.
Tom
I should have my Detroit Locker by then too.
Compare the ratings on the upper right hand side of the page.
Look at the poor rating on my Auburn, then click the other link and look at the rating on the Powertrax No-Slip, it has one of the best ratings out of all of them.
Auburn = http://www.reiderracing.com/auburngear.htm
Power Trax = http://www.reiderracing.com/noslip.htm
Detroit Locker = http://www.reiderracing.com/detroitlocker.htm
Of course the Detroit kicks butt accross the field, but it's expensive.
All lockers aren't the greatest for towing because they'll chew tires a bit while pulling a very heavy load. That's why all the lockers have low tow ratings.
Tom