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I purchased a 2003 F-250 Super Duty and I'm very pleased except that it seems now the F-150 is a better truck than a 250 just a year older. I don't know how a 2004 F-250 differs from a 2003, but I just have this feeling of being let down. I wanted a truck that was impressive as well as a truck that I could do most anything with and now the lesser F-150 numerically is a better truck than mine. 40 more Hp right off the bat. Maybe I'm missing something that my 2003 F-250 has over the new F-150 but at a glance I don't see it. I'm even wondering if my 5.4 triton can be converted to the new design. Anyone else in a similar situation and have this same let down feeling?
There is no comparison between the F150 and F250. Just look at the body, the inside room, the list goes on. THE F250 is a bad bad Truck! I'm not a power person, so I could care less about HP. Nothing comes close to the F250 in overall TRUCK!!!
You have to keep in mind, the Super Duties are more of a work truck by design, so acceleration is not the focus. I had an '03 F150 4x4 for a week, (my '03 F350 was getting a paint flaw fixed), and it was much faster. I test drove a F250 with the V8 before getting my F350 V10, and the V8 seemed like it had to almost struggle to get the truck moving. I personally don't think it's enough engine for the truck. I guess it really depends on how you use it though.
I guess I would ask < Why Did you buy an F 250? Do you work it? Need it to tow?If not, perhaps you should not have gotten a 250. I dont need a 250 to tow the wieghts I need to .But I want to be able to push snow, so I bought a 250. If you use a truck as a daily driver a 1/2 ton as more truck then you need. Ken
Let down? no. I had my choice and bought the Super Duty. The F-150 is a good truck and always does well in the segment its aimed for. Whether your satisfied or not depends greatly on what you wanted your truck to do. The SVT Cobra 4.6 makes gobs of HP but how effective would it be at towing anything not to mention running through the mud, crud and cornfields?
F250 and 350 are work trucks, not performance vehicles. If you want a truck to rice out, dont buy a work class. I have a v8 in my 2001 F250SD Supercab and i have more then enough power. The only time i have had it bogged down was with a ton of gravel in the bed along with 2000lb load on the trailer trying to pull some large hills in central PA doing 65-70mph. And that was more of a gearing issue then engine. Otherwise, i have used that truck for everything under the sun without a problem.
Hello everyone and thanks for your input, but I guess I really would have liked to see the improved 5.4 liter that's in the new F-150 put into the SD F-250 or at least an available option. Don't get me wrong, I love my F-250, but with all the 250 has to offer, a little more horsepower and improved mileage would have been nice. It really would have made the F250 more of a SD truck and kept that gap between the 150 and 250 the way it has been over the years. Does this make any sense of how I'm seeing things???
I had a similar situation a few months back, found a newer f250 which I fell in love with,took it for a test drive and said foreget it, it had the 5.4 in it,if only it was the v10 it would have been a keeper. My point is yes there is a noticable difference between the 150 and 250 with the 5.4. By no means am I suggesting the 5.4 is junk,it is to bad that ford does not over another engine option that would fall between the 5.4 and v10,similar to what chevy offers.
Thanks Bender97f250 for your reply and I'm glad that you see what I'm getting at. I had thought of the v10 because of the increased horsepower and torque, but I had heard that the v10 being new had some problems or was bound to have some as it being a newer design motor not having been around long enough to prove itself yet. Now I know I was going on rumor, but the rumor made sense. Then again, the same arguement could be made against the improved 5.4 it being a new design and therefore will have some possible design flaws. So maybe in the long run I'm better off with a proven design of motor be it less in hp and torque.
If you are worried about power u should have got a v10 or a psd.. That is my .02 cents. The v10 is a pretty solid motor have about 136k on mine and no problems yet..
I drove a 2004 F250SD with the 5.4 liter triton in it and I agree it doesn't seem to have the straight out power as some other trucks. I have driven a F150 with the 5.4 and it seems to be no comparison, I know that the 250 is a lot heavier truck, but still there seemed to be a huge difference. I said something to the salesman about that and he said that the F-250 is about a 270-280hp with a 2 valve set up, while the F150 is a 300hp engine with 300hp. I think what they are doing is that the 1/2 tons halve the 4.6 for people who like to lug around and don't need the power. It gets the job done. The 5.4 in the half ton's is for more power, etc. In the 3/4 you have the 5.4 to lug around in and plenty of people are satisfied with that. The V-10 is for the all out power, but you give up fuel mileage, and the PSD is a powerhouse with what is supposed to be good mileage, but many people don't like the diesel, but oh boy if you do that is a kick butt engine!! Either way the super duty is a beatiful truck that will get the job done.
I'm sorry, I missed typed what I was trying to say earlier. The 5.4 Triton in the F150's is a 300hp engine with a 3 valve set up, so it's probably not very easy to convert yours to that design. I know what I meant to say. I hope you do now too......
So in that line of thinking. What if they offered the V10 or the PSD in the F150.
Does that mean that the 250 and 350 should not even be made? I think your missing
the differences between them. It's not just engine and looks. Sure the new F150
looks new and has nice power (with the 5.4). But it is still not even in the same class as the
Superduties. The 150 is a half ton light duty truck. The 250 and up are heaver built
heavy duty trucks. They have a stronger frame, stronger axles, ext, ext, The 150 is
built to be worked. the 250 and up are built to be worked harder.. They could put the 4.6
in the 250. With the right gearing it would pull well enough to do just about any job.
Just not as fast as we may like. When looking at the big picture. I just don't see how a new motor would make it more of a truck. That would mean if I put a PSD in the Ranger it
it would be more of a truck than anyone has..