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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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How is the Odometer connected

51 ford with 72 302 engine and 3 on a tree to the transmission.
Odometer was never working or connected for that matter, at least thats what I noticed.
Where at on the transmission does it connect to. I'm looking all over the transmission and don't know what to look for.

I have the trans pulled because I'm rebuilding the engine but can seem to find where it connects.

Thanks for you help.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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If it's a stock 3 speed, you should see a threaded raised area towards the back of the tranny tailshaft area. If it's a later 3 speed, you'll have a hole at a downward angle on the side of the tailshaft housing with a 1/4 inch hole for a bolt to thread into. On this style the cable and gear slide into it and are held on by a fork that the bolt goes thru. Post what style tranny you have.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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what styles are there? This one has the bell housing that connects to the gear box that connects to the tailshaft. When I get home from work i'll look at the tail shaft again, but I could not see anything. I guess I need to look harder.

How do I identify the type of tranny. It had stamped on the gear box "Orion" then another stamp with about 8 numbers but that did not provide info when I looked it up on the internet.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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THe original tranny has a bracket with 2 ears off it that mounts it to the crossmember. This bracket has the spot for the cable to thread onto it. It barely sticks past the crossmember. THe later tranny has a tailshaft housing that the mount is below it and the housing would stick past 4-6 inches. Because you've got a 302 in there, I wonder what type of adapter it uses. If it's a later tranny, I'd think you'd notice the hole I was talking about as it's at least 1 inch in dia. and fluid would leak out without a cable in there.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 07:14 AM
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ok, it sounds like the later tranny.

The tail shaft mounts on top of and extends past the crossmember.

The only time oil leaked out was when I unscrewed a bolt from the tail shaft into the gear box.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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it should be out the side of the tail shaft housing, at a downward slant on the right side if I remember correctly. I am going by if it's a Ford 3 speed. Can you take a pic of this tranny and either post it here or send it to me? I'm surprised you can't find it. Maybe the remnant of the old cable is still in the hole? It uses a o ring to seal it, otherwise you have oil all over.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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I guess this is it. But what is interesting is that on the second picture the previous owner had this cover on it. The speedometer was never connected. Now when I do connect the
speedometer, do you see the second little hole, does the end of the speedometer connector cover that as well? Because I think oil will leak out of that little hole. I don't know what the end of the speedometer looks like yet, because my original appears to have been cut.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=38318&width=0

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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THe pics don't show up.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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links should work now
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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THe 1st pic and the 3rd one show it. You have a late tranny and it takes the cable with the fork and o-ring. It slides up into the hole and a 1/4 inch short bolt goes into the fork and threads into the small hole.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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You can probably use a cable from a mid 60's pickup truck. You will have to use a gear with between 18-21 teeth on the end. Make sure your output shaft has the plastic gear on it. That drive the gear on the cable.

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ok. I'm looking at a speedo cable a catalog and
they have the cables for 48-51 but looking at the pics they don't look like they have a gear at the end, is that why you are saying a mid 60's. They are made to fit my tranny?
 

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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That tranny is out of a late 60's- early 70's car or truck. The end that goes to the dash has a nut that threads on the back of the speedo. The other end has a round aluminum area that has a groove for the o-ring and a center area the plastic gear slides onto. That gear has a little clip that goes onto the gear sideways to lock it on. You then push it up into that hole on the side of the tail housing. The little bolt holds it all in place. Get a cable ffor a 66 F-100 with a 3 speed standard. The gear is a separate item as is the little clip.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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I follow you. Can I assume it does not matter how many teeth.
I'm looking here in Dennis Carpenter's catalog and he has teeth from 19-22 and they are not specific with the model truck.

appreciate your help.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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It depends on tire size, rear end ratio and engine size. Get a 19 tooth gear. Then you check it against another vehicle to see if you're goping the same speed. If not, you increase or decrease the amount of teeth. Each increase of one or decrease of one tooth equals about 10 mile an hour. because it's not a specific model vehicle, you have a hybrid engine, etc..., you have to play with it to get it correct. You might want to order 3-4 of them in different teeth amounts to be safe. Don't forget to get the clip. You can also get the clips and gears at the local Ford dealer.

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