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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Question Fog Lamp replacement

I could have sworn I saw a thread for this, but doing a search revealed nothing, so here goes:

Every fog lamp I ever put on a vehicle had an amber lens. I used fog lamps during a whiteout in PA (turning off the driving lights, of course) and the result was incredible. I could see the road again!

So why does Ford use a white light in their fog lamp? The owners manual says to use a 9145 trade bulb. My real question is, is there an amber bulb that replaces the white one that has the same current rating? I sure don't want to burn up my wiring harness or start popping fuses.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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I looked & looked, but can't come up w/ an Amber lamp part number. I found the specs for the GE 9145 on their web site, but couldn't cross them over to an amber module..

Sorry, Hopefully someone else will have better luck..

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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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I have been looking for the same thing. I do wish someone would come out with an amber lens or bulb.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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I haven't figured out how to attach a file to a message post, but I have the GE infosheet for the 9145 45W fog lamp bulb in .PDF format. I'm still trying to find a cross reference that might show an amber bulb with the same base and wattage rating.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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It's probably the sama data sheet I have... I tried to use the different numbers and ratings to cross ie: H10, 9145, etc.. Still no luck.. It's probably a slimmer chance to find amber covers as well.. When I get my truck, I just may end up installing ambers as well..

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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I left a message on the GE web site, asking if there is any advantage to a white fog lamp bulb over an amber. I hope they respond. If they do, I'll post it here.

I haven't had any fog here in Virginia since picking up the truck. Has anyone actually tested the effectiveness of the fog lights???
 
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Man, this was fast! Here's GE's incredibly timely response:

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Tracking number: AT20040304_0000000257


Thank you for contacting the GE Lighting Website.

I will be glad to assist you. A recent test by the Cold Regions
Research and Engineering Laboratory (CRREL) found that yellow
light does not have superior fog penetrating qualities. The
beam pattern is what determines the difference between FOG and
DRIVING lights. Fog lights are patterned to project lower and
wider than Driving lights.

Sincerely,
Mike
GE Lighting Response Team
 
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Man, this was fast! Here's GE's incredibly timely response:

Please include the following line in all replies.
Tracking number: AT20040304_0000000257


Thank you for contacting the GE Lighting Website.

I will be glad to assist you. A recent test by the Cold Regions
Research and Engineering Laboratory (CRREL) found that yellow
light does not have superior fog penetrating qualities. The
beam pattern is what determines the difference between FOG and
DRIVING lights. Fog lights are patterned to project lower and
wider than Driving lights.

Sincerely,
Mike
GE Lighting Response Team
 
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Interesting. All I remember is years ago when I put aftermarket amber fog lights on I seemed to be able to see better due to the bulbs color. I seemed to get less glare than with white lights, especially in fog and snow.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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I agree, I've had great results with amber lens fog lights, so I'm itching to find out if anyone has had the opportunity to try the white ones out on the '04 F150. We haven't had any fog to speak of yet.
 
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I'm assuming these fog light bulbs are regular tungsten filaments, as opposed to quartz-halogen, right? Could you not spray some sort of clear amber coating on them, and get the same results? Assuming you can't find an amber bulb that fits, of course.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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I'm intrigued by the idea that it's the diffusion pattern and not the bulb color that makes the fogs lights effective (according to General Electric). If that's the case, then a white bulb would have better effectiveness against fog than an amber one. I was hoping someone in this forum would have had the opportunity by now to prove GE's statement once and for all. If I get the chance you can be sure I'll give it a test and post the results.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Dusty....like you, I went to GE website and got nowhere. Then I checked OSRAM/Sylvania and found that the 9145 lamp is a category H10 halogen. Currently, they only make them in clear (white light) lamps. Looking through their catalog, I found that they make other halogens (for headlight apps) in clear, blue, and AMBER colors. Another phone call revealed that this is a newer-spec bulb and it may take time for aftermarket applications to get addressed.

Their US website is:

http://www.sylvania.com/home_us.htm

How about the gang at FTE get in touch with them and tell them there is a dire need to produce these lamps in AMBER! For me, the amber light is better, just like the effect of shooting glasses; everything seems sharper.

Jeez, the Europeans have been driving with amber HEADLIGHTS for decades...maybe we can get a decent fog lamp if we ask!!

In addition to the URL given, OSRAM/Sylvania US can be reached at: Global Automotive Lighting
OSRAM SYLVANIA
275 West Main Street
Hillsboro, NH 03244
800-347-3420

Let's bombard them with requests for amber 9145's, and by the fall we'll have some decent fog lights!! -Don
 
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