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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:36 AM
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Take a look at the future.

Visit and look around.....http://www.made-in-china.com/prod/ca...&order=&page=2
 
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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The person who correctly guesses when Ford trucks are delivered with "Made in China" gets a prize.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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Never? is Never the right answer? Dang well better be!!
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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Looks like a bunch of flimbsy, ready to break, made in the orient stuff once again
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by carpe_diem
The person who correctly guesses when Ford trucks are delivered with "Made in China" gets a prize.
Right now, we have a positive trading position with China on vehicles. We export TO China to the tune of $1.2Billion/year, mostly Cadillacs and other luxury cars. By 2025, some experts predict that China's domestic market for cars will be higher than the US'. In other words, they're going to have a hard enough time keeping up with local demand.
We need to look at S. Korea, not China. They have a small domestic market, lots of capital and US partners like GM-Daewoo.
They have inexpensive entry level vehicles and are starting to make a real impact in the US. Kia is another example of a S. Korean company making inroads in the US.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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By 2025, some experts predict that China's domestic market for cars will be higher than the US'.
That also means their gasoline consumption will rival or exceed that of America. Yikes!!


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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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That also means their gasoline consumption will rival or exceed that of America. Yikes!!

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Potentially dwindling supply mixed with a massive increase in demand = NOT GOOD.

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by jpsartre12
By 2025, some experts predict that China's domestic market for cars will be higher than the US'. In other words, they're going to have a hard enough time keeping up with local demand.
These "experts" must also know something about the terrible population density and over-crowding in China. Where are they going to drive and park all these cars?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by jpsartre12
Right now, we have a positive trading position with China on vehicles. We export TO China to the tune of $1.2Billion/year, mostly Cadillacs and other luxury cars. By 2025, some experts predict that China's domestic market for cars will be higher than the US'. In other words, they're going to have a hard enough time keeping up with local demand.
We need to look at S. Korea, not China. They have a small domestic market, lots of capital and US partners like GM-Daewoo.
They have inexpensive entry level vehicles and are starting to make a real impact in the US. Kia is another example of a S. Korean company making inroads in the US.
I'd think Ford, encumbered with pension liabilities that hamper its ability to recapitalize, like GM, would eventually partner with an Asian company for their future efforts in China. Japan is out of the question, so that leaves S. Korea.

GM is shifting more and more development engineering to Holden and has been selling stand-alone bond issues in an attempt to distance themselves from their pension liabilities, same problem as Ford, and, as mentioned, is already in alliances with S. Korea.

Why hang on to the GM/Ford Marques at all to do business in China? Small, fuel-efficient vehicles, regardless of the common fuel in that era, will dominate that general market. Our brands certainly don't carry that reputation nor are we moving in that direction. Other than luxury and commercial vehicles, I'd think Ford/GM Marques would be detremental to a Chinese marketing effort.

The next obvious step would be export of Chinese manufactured vehicles and, while not a specific topic of the general world economic superiority China will achieve in the second half of this century barring a nuclear holocast, they should dominate low-end world vehicle markets in the same manner their other consumer products have become the standard. 20 years ago who even saw a Chinese product other than electronics branded in Hong Kong? 20 years is around the corner.

On population density, while China has three times the per-capita population density of the world average, way under India and many other countries, the geographical size of China is huge with vast unihabited areas. We're now building on our deserts and draining the swamps, so I don't think parking in China will be a problem.
 
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