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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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Glow Plug Question

I suspect I may have a faulty glow plug relay ....... I live in the islands and nobody has the relay in stock, I have to order it from the USA ....... The question is what is the difference between the glow plug relay and the starter relay (solonoid). Is there any reason why a starter relay wont do the same job.... I cant imagine that the glow plugs relay has to draw more amperage than the starter relay and they are both pretty much the same type switch........... anyone got any ideas if this can work using a starter relay to replace the glowplugs relay ??
 
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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It worked on a friends truck. 6 mos and still working.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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I don't think the starter relay will last. The glow plug relay is rated at 120 volts dc. Glow plugs operate at high dc voltage and Ford has had problems with these glow plug relays in the past. The voltage rating wasn't high enough and the contacts start melting over time. Once they start melting or getting malformed, the contacts can actually be touching each other a little and sending voltage to the glow plugs constantly, which then causes the glow plug life to be shortened. The same thing will probably happen if you use the starter relay for long because the contacts are not rated for the voltage. Use the starter relay temporary and plan on eventually replacing with the right relay.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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The glow plug relay is a 12 volt relay.The glow plugs work off battery voltage.I work at a ford dealer and i would use the proper relay but you could use a starter relay if it is setup the same way.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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If these glow plugs use 120 VDC, where do they get it in a 12 VDC system..
I wonder if someone once wrote is as 12.0 VDC and then lost the (.) dot... LOL
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 04:38 AM
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I live in the islands and nobody has the relay in stock, I have to order it from the USA
I'm not sure which islands you're talking about, but if you've got NAPA stores around, you could get part #GPR-109. About $25. At Autozone, the part number would be #MR-99, at about the same price.
If you go into either of these places, order it by part number. They don't have these parts listed in their computer for this application.
I hope this helps.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Thanks Quadzilla ........... Its the Bahama Islands and yes we do have a Napa store here and I did check it out but no application for my vehicle.......... But maybe this part # will help, I will check them again today....... I really appreciate it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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Don't complicate things by telling them what you're using it for, just ask for it by part number.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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I called em........ they carry it but they're out of stock....... Told me to check back in about 2 weeks......... 33 bucks here.
Anybody flying in to Nassau this weekend ?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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To the glow plugs use 120VDC.The glow plugs are operated on 12.0VDC.You might be thinking of the injectors they are 120VDC but not the glow plugs.The injectors are operated from the INJECTOR DRIVER MOUDULE [IDM].That is where the voltage is increased to 120VDC to work the injectors.The glow plugs are not controled by the IDM.THEY JUST WORK OFF 12.0VDC.The PCM controls the time the 12.0VDC glow plug relay is no.I am a certified ford diesel tech and work on these trucks every day at a dealership and never seen a 120VDC glow plug system on any of the ford diesel trucks F-250 - F550 that use the powerstroke or the F650-F750 that use the CAT or CUMMINS engines.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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I will fly down with one, in exchange for some sun and rum punch!!lol
 
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Thanks for the info PSPower................. Seeing that you are a diesel tech........ What do you think of the idea of using the starter relay in place of the glow plug relay.......... they both relay high amperage 12 volt current.......... whats the difference?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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I will fly down with one, in exchange for some sun and rum punch!!lol
Well we certainly got a lot of both of those comodities over here and a whole lot more
 
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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I would use A ford part because i work at a ford dealer and we probably have them in stock.But if i was in your situation and could find something that works i would use it.I don't see anything wrong with using a relay that will work and is rated at 12volts.If i could show you a diagram of the glow plug system i would to show you that there is nothing that is 120VOLTS in that system. It just 12VOLTS.But i can't publish fords material it is against ford policies.Good luck in your search.
 
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