V10 vs. Diesel
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 15-Jan-02 AT 11:25 PM (EST)]I thought 4.56's were the lowest gears currently available for the Sterling 10.5"...But you're right Abendx, 5.38's would be better.
BTW, NoMo turned me on to this site. It's good for all you guys (lucky enough to be able to lift and put bigger tires on
) help you figure out proper gearing. [link:www.www.ring-pinion.com/calc-rpm.html|Randy Ring & Pinion Calculator]
BTW, NoMo turned me on to this site. It's good for all you guys (lucky enough to be able to lift and put bigger tires on
) help you figure out proper gearing. [link:www.www.ring-pinion.com/calc-rpm.html|Randy Ring & Pinion Calculator]
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The good thing is now that you gettin an 02 you can get the solid axle up front and are real easy to lift and cheaper, i think the f-350 is the way to go i wish i would have got the f350 crew cab long bed psd instead of ext cab f250 460 but oh well i still love my baby the way she is just my .02 cents
1995 F-250 Ext. Cab 4x4 Off-Road, 4.10LS 460 5 Speed xlt, Black, Grey Interior,Running lights, Sky Jacker 6" lift and 39.5" Super swampers, 3" Skyjacker Body Lift with 16.5" aluminums, K&N FIPK, cowl induction hood, grille guard with 12,000lb Warn winch, Rancho Dual Shock kit Front and rear, Rancho Dual Steering stabilizer, true dual exahust with 3" pipe dynomax race mufflers and 4 inch tips exiting at rear corners, RhinoLiner, cleaned out Kitty Cat, Roll Bar with KC HiLites, soon to have air lockers and 4:88's and TS2000 KB Supercharger, MAF??? and header's
1995 F-250 Ext. Cab 4x4 Off-Road, 4.10LS 460 5 Speed xlt, Black, Grey Interior,Running lights, Sky Jacker 6" lift and 39.5" Super swampers, 3" Skyjacker Body Lift with 16.5" aluminums, K&N FIPK, cowl induction hood, grille guard with 12,000lb Warn winch, Rancho Dual Shock kit Front and rear, Rancho Dual Steering stabilizer, true dual exahust with 3" pipe dynomax race mufflers and 4 inch tips exiting at rear corners, RhinoLiner, cleaned out Kitty Cat, Roll Bar with KC HiLites, soon to have air lockers and 4:88's and TS2000 KB Supercharger, MAF??? and header's
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>I thought 4.56's were the lowest gears currently available
>for the Sterling 10.5"...But you're right Abendx, 5.38's
>would be better.
5.38's are actually the lowest i could find..... 4.56 would be the next step higher. randy's stocks these gears. i wish they would make a few more sizes for that sterling 10.5... 4.88's and 5.13's would make better choices for different tire sizes... if you could get a 5.13 that would prob be the best ratio for those 40's.
my next upgrades will be the following in that order....
-lockers.
-winch.
-4" spring hangers and 42" tires or the 4" hangers/3" body and 44" tires. (of course there will be new and exciting driveline issues at this point.
).
-5.38 gears.
actually in the latest peterson's there is a pic of some guy that has the 8" fabtech and 4" superlift hangers with cutouts (fender triming of course) and is running 44 inchers... that is one mean looking superduty!!! i may go that route vice the body lift since i am no real fan of them....
hummm... so many things to do... so little cash to do them with. lol.
>for the Sterling 10.5"...But you're right Abendx, 5.38's
>would be better.
5.38's are actually the lowest i could find..... 4.56 would be the next step higher. randy's stocks these gears. i wish they would make a few more sizes for that sterling 10.5... 4.88's and 5.13's would make better choices for different tire sizes... if you could get a 5.13 that would prob be the best ratio for those 40's.
my next upgrades will be the following in that order....
-lockers.
-winch.
-4" spring hangers and 42" tires or the 4" hangers/3" body and 44" tires. (of course there will be new and exciting driveline issues at this point.
).-5.38 gears.
actually in the latest peterson's there is a pic of some guy that has the 8" fabtech and 4" superlift hangers with cutouts (fender triming of course) and is running 44 inchers... that is one mean looking superduty!!! i may go that route vice the body lift since i am no real fan of them....
hummm... so many things to do... so little cash to do them with. lol.
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>The good thing is now that you gettin an 02 you can get the
>solid axle up front and are real easy to lift and cheaper, i
>think the f-350 is the way to go i wish i would have got the
>f350 crew cab long bed psd instead of ext cab f250 460 but
>oh well i still love my baby the way she is just my .02
>cents
>
>
>
??????? All the Super Duties('99 and up) 250-350 have had solid front axles on the 4WD.
The only advantage to an '02 is ALL the 4WD's now have the dana 60 front.(250 or 350)
>solid axle up front and are real easy to lift and cheaper, i
>think the f-350 is the way to go i wish i would have got the
>f350 crew cab long bed psd instead of ext cab f250 460 but
>oh well i still love my baby the way she is just my .02
>cents
>
>
>
??????? All the Super Duties('99 and up) 250-350 have had solid front axles on the 4WD.
The only advantage to an '02 is ALL the 4WD's now have the dana 60 front.(250 or 350)
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>
>>The only advantage to an '02 is ALL the 4WD's now have the
>>dana 60 front.(250 or 350)
>
>ummm... major advantage!!!! the D60 is a much better
>setup... WAY stronger!!!!
I agree 100% But I disticntly remember Ford owners down playing the Dana 60 advantage to those pesky Dodge owners when all we had was the Dana 50. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
>>The only advantage to an '02 is ALL the 4WD's now have the
>>dana 60 front.(250 or 350)
>
>ummm... major advantage!!!! the D60 is a much better
>setup... WAY stronger!!!!
I agree 100% But I disticntly remember Ford owners down playing the Dana 60 advantage to those pesky Dodge owners when all we had was the Dana 50. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
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If most of your driving is short trips,I'd go with a gasser. It takes the diesels a long time(10 mi.?) to heat up good,sometimes longer in the winter. If you're going to tow a lot up steep grades(not likely though with that much lift)consider a diesel. If I had it to do over again I'd go with the F-350 SRW. The sales lit. I picked up claims it has 1000 lb. payload cap. over the F-250.
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I've had both, a Dodge 2500 4x4 w/V-10 and currently my PSD X. They both have there strong points and I enjoyed each.
The V-10 was strong, pulled nice and was quick out of the whole. I averaged 8/10mpg and 6-7 towing. As mentioned earlier, you don't buy these big 4x4's for mileage. The fact my PSD gets 12/15 is just icing on the cake.
The price difference to me was just that, + $4730. I wanted a diesel, so justification or not thats what I was getting. If you base it soley on need and really think about it, do you really need an 8000lb vehicle to get you from home to work? Do you need that 32ft 5er to pull to Texoma twice a year to fish? Probably not, but it sure is fun!
So, I'd go with what you really feel inside and get what you want (checkbook & wife permitting) If you don't, you'll regret it.
However, having said that... the 7.3 Ltr Powerstroke diesel is a massive, colossal powerplant with an enormous amount of raw, unbridled potential that exhibits tremendous stump pullin, propane snortin, tire smokin power with a wealth of natural a$$ kickin ability!
How could you not want one of these?
Lane
The V-10 was strong, pulled nice and was quick out of the whole. I averaged 8/10mpg and 6-7 towing. As mentioned earlier, you don't buy these big 4x4's for mileage. The fact my PSD gets 12/15 is just icing on the cake.
The price difference to me was just that, + $4730. I wanted a diesel, so justification or not thats what I was getting. If you base it soley on need and really think about it, do you really need an 8000lb vehicle to get you from home to work? Do you need that 32ft 5er to pull to Texoma twice a year to fish? Probably not, but it sure is fun!
So, I'd go with what you really feel inside and get what you want (checkbook & wife permitting) If you don't, you'll regret it.
However, having said that... the 7.3 Ltr Powerstroke diesel is a massive, colossal powerplant with an enormous amount of raw, unbridled potential that exhibits tremendous stump pullin, propane snortin, tire smokin power with a wealth of natural a$$ kickin ability!
How could you not want one of these?
Lane
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V10 vs. Diesel
If you're going to tow a lot up steep grades(not likely though with that much lift)consider a diesel.
Am I the only guy who has towed with a diesel up a hill?? Diesels suck on hills, especially while towing. You think the make that extra lane to the left on the big hills for gassers??
Am I the only guy who has towed with a diesel up a hill?? Diesels suck on hills, especially while towing. You think the make that extra lane to the left on the big hills for gassers??
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>If you're going to tow a lot up steep grades(not likely
>though with that much lift)consider a diesel.
>
>Am I the only guy who has towed with a diesel up a hill??
>Diesels suck on hills, especially while towing. You think
>the make that extra lane to the left on the big hills for
>gassers??
Actually the slow lanes are made for Chebby's.
>though with that much lift)consider a diesel.
>
>Am I the only guy who has towed with a diesel up a hill??
>Diesels suck on hills, especially while towing. You think
>the make that extra lane to the left on the big hills for
>gassers??
Actually the slow lanes are made for Chebby's.
I gotta go back and learn my left from right.
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 20-Jan-02 AT 09:48 PM (EST)]>Actually, it's a D50. The SRW trucks didn't get the D60
>until '02.
SRW....yup 
Sorry....I don't know why, but every time I see "F350" I automatically assume Dually.
>until '02.
SRW....yup
Sorry....I don't know why, but every time I see "F350" I automatically assume Dually.