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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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OK, so I've been snooping around here for a couple of weeks now checking out what you folks had to say about the new F-150's. I had lots of questions but thankfully they've all been answered in many other posts from other people. I can honestly say that the information on this site has been more help than anywhere else I've looked.
I've been talking to several dealers in my area for 2 months now on ordering a new truck. Three weeks ago I went ahead and placed an order with one of these dealers on an 04' F-150 SuperCab. It's an FX4, Blazing Yellow, Leather seats, blah, blah, blah, with all the bells and whistles. The MSRP was 36 G's and I'm getting it at $30,653 out the door. Three days ago my salesman phoned me and said there was a problem and that my truck may take until JUNE!!! to be built. I was originally told between 6 and 8 weeks. The problem, he told me, was that Ford was not building any more "bright" colored truck until late spring of this year. So my question is, has anyone else heard of this "bright" truck delay? Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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Sounds like a BS answer to me, and could be a cover up story for YOUR particular dealers allotment problem. Meaning they've maxed out the number of F150's they can get until next quarter. But it does concern me because in my eyes the only two bright colors they offer is blazin yeller, and fire truck red. Well I've got a red one on order. Call the guy back and ask if they ran out of paint, I might be wrong but I can't think of a reason why Ford would halt production of "bright" vehicles until late spring.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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"Bright" color problem? News to me. If your truck is scheduled to be built at Kansas City, and you're getting 2-tone and/ or chrome running boards, THAT will slow up your order, for sure. And before you ask: there's no way to change the plant in which your truck will be built. If you have the VIN, then I can tell you where it will be built, if that helps.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Hey guys. Thanks for the input. I checked this morning with another local dealer I had been working with. A friend of the family is a salesman at this dealership but he couldn't beat the price of the place that I ordered my truck from. Anyways, he told me that Ford runs a certain number of trucks through the assembly line at a time according to their color and that the yellow may be way down on the list right now for the next scheduled run.
I don't have a vin# yet Mark and my truck is two tone Yellow/grey and will have black tubular running boards. All I can say for sure about a vin# right now is that my salesman said it would take 3 or 4 weeks for the number to be assigned and that he'd call me ASAP when that time came.
Ultramax, as for your red truck, my local dealer has 4 on his lot from plain jane to maxed out baby dolls. Being a Steeler fanatic though I had to either go with yellow or black and I swore a long time ago I'd never own another black truck. LOL
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Being a Steeler fanatic though I had to either go with yellow or black and I swore a long time ago I'd never own another black truck. LOL
We have a Mazda Miata the same color yellow. The sales guy told us that when Mazda paints that color, they have to run the car through the line twice before they paint the clear coat because the yellow doesn't cover as well as darker colors. I don't know if that is true or if the same thing is done by Ford. (In fact I doubt it.) But if so, that could explain why they want to run batches of certain colors.

Anyway, the point of my post is that the yellow hides the dirt we have around here pretty well even though my wife hardly lets her car get dirty. But it is a lot easier to wash a Miata than a S-Crew. I think there's more surface on the roof alone than the entire Miata and you don't need a ladder to reach it.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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We have a Mazda Miata the same color yellow. The sales guy told us that when Mazda paints that color, they have to run the car through the line twice before they paint the clear coat because the yellow doesn't cover as well as darker colors. I don't know if that is true or if the same thing is done by Ford. (In fact I doubt it.) But if so, that could explain why they want to run batches of certain colors...
I'm glad you brought that up. We had one yellow F-150 come through here, and I was disappointed with the paint; you could see right through it, down to the primer, in several spots. It was an early one, so maybe Ford is running them through twice to fix this problem. But I couldn't believe how thin the paint was on that one truck.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Hey MarkII, you said with my vin# you could tell me which plant my truck would be built in. Come to think of it, it's been 17 days now since I ordered this thing and still no vin#. The last time I checked with my salesman (3days ago) he said he pulled it up and it just said "clean". What gives? In your opinion, is this guy just jerkin' me around? I've resigned myself to give him until the end of this week, which will be 21 days, to come up with a vin# for my truck. If he hasn't got anything for me I'm gonna head to another dealer and do it all over again.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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If your order says "clean," then that means Ford has received it, it's buildable as it's ordered, but it hasn't been scheduled for production. Once it's scheduled, you'll get a VIN. There are two reasons, and two reasons only, for it not being scheduled at this time. 1) It's equipment is slowing it down, ESPECIALLY if it needs to be built at Kansas City, or 2) your dealer has allocaton issues, which means he can't get the trucks he needs. At this point it's anyone's guess, because a dealer will NEVER admit to not having allocation. Except "yours truly," of course. And I ALWAYS have allocation!!!! (Lordy, I just crack myself up sometimes!)
 
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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steelerfreak, 1956markII would know if this theory has any validity but you negotiated a pretty good price on an early order 04 truck ($6k off and just the way you wanted it). I wonder if the dealer is receiving a limited number of allotments but selling them to people with a lower discount than you received. Basically your dealer is delivering vehicles in descending order of dealer profit. in any event, i dont buy the yellow paint story, altho there have been press reports of certain options that will definitely delay delivery (the chrome side step rails for instance)
 
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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I don't know if this helps anyone with timing of delivery for your trucks or debunking any rumors. My truck arrived in Houston last night - Feb 17th. I ordered on Jan 10. FX4, SCREW, Blazin' Yellow, Chrome running tubes, Audiophile, black leather captain's chairs, 18" wheels, moonroof, 3.73, tow pkg., bed extender. I had fears that the chrome, yellow paint and 18" wheels were all holding things up. Maybe I got lucky, but if I take delivery on Saturday, it will have been 6 weeks to the day from order to delivery, and 11 days from the completion of the truck at the plant in Kansas City to getting it in my hands.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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Ok I had a talk with my salesman today and he assured me that he'd have an ETA for my truck by late next week. He also gave me the vin# assigned my truck Mark. 1FTPX14564KC59415....does that help out any?

03F150Man, I'm not the only one who's getting a good deal at this dealership. I'm in Western North Carolina. Jobs are leaving this area quick and business ain't good. Sales are way down on everything and I know 2 other people who got similar deals on trucks from this same dealership. It's almost like they're pleading with people to buy from them.

Texan, congradulations on your rig. Sounds like pretty much the same thing I've ordered. All you need is a Steeler tag and bumber sticker and you're all set. lol. That outta go over good down there in Cowboy country.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Steelerfreak - I don't think folks would mind too much since the last memory of the Steelers people around here have is that last fateful SuperBowl. Actually, everyone here is pretty well enamored with the Texans, so most wouldn't pay any attention. Truth be known I am actually a Redskin fan. Talk about being out of place - it would only be worse if I was living in Dallas.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by steelerfreak
...He also gave me the vin# assigned my truck Mark. 1FTPX14564KC59415....does that help out any?...
Your truck will be built in Kansas City. So, if you've ordered chrome running boards and/ or 18" wheels and/ or 2-tone paint, it could take awhile. They can only build 4-5% of their trucks with these options. If you've ordered all 3: well, let's hope they get this situation handled, 'cause you could be waiting a LONG time in that case. Sorry.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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I don't yet know my VIN, but I've basically got the same truck ordered. Does the Norfolk plant have the same issues with delays of the above options, 2-tone, 18" FX4 wheels? I'm hoping it comes from Norfolk, my 97 f150 came from there and has never gave an ounce of trouble so I hope they still have the same QA ppl. Do you know MarkII if dealers typically always get certian vehicles from certian plants due to their location, or is it just a gamble and they come from anywhere?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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I just got a clarification this morning on this stuff. The chrome running board shortage is nationwide. Same with the 18" OWL tires, but their availability is a little better. The problem with tu-tone is at Kansas City only, and total reg-cab/super-cab production at KC is EXTREMELY limted (KC is the only plant building SuperCrews, so they're running almost all SuperCrews to try to meet demand).
 
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