Replace Injectors Yes or No
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Replace Injectors Yes or No
Question for you all.
I have had 2 of the injectors replaced in my 03 truck so far. Should I try (I may not be successful) in getting the balance of them replaced with the new ones? I plan on doing some long towing trips this summer (10,000lbs) and am wondering if you guys think it would be worth getting done. Not if I would be successful in getting it done, just if you think it would be worth getting done. Or should I just wait and see if the old injectors do infact fail. Kind of the "if it aint broke don't fix it" theory. I have 14,000 miles on the truck so far.
Thanks for the input.
I have had 2 of the injectors replaced in my 03 truck so far. Should I try (I may not be successful) in getting the balance of them replaced with the new ones? I plan on doing some long towing trips this summer (10,000lbs) and am wondering if you guys think it would be worth getting done. Not if I would be successful in getting it done, just if you think it would be worth getting done. Or should I just wait and see if the old injectors do infact fail. Kind of the "if it aint broke don't fix it" theory. I have 14,000 miles on the truck so far.
Thanks for the input.
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FRom what I have read in the past, Ford won't replace the injectors unless they fail. I only read of one case where someone claimed they were friends with the service manager and got all eight replaced.
At what mileage, did the two injectors fail?
At what mileage, did the two injectors fail?
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Good question. I can tell you that one way or another (me pay or they pay) my truck would never leave the dealership lot without all new injectors. I have not had any failure and now at 7000 miles. I have read some have them crap out at higher miles as well as lower. But to me, just from what I have read here and elsewhere, most seem to fail early. I believe in being reasonable and calm and all that but if this happens I will be prepared with the info from this site and elsewhere to support replacing them all. I have heard c95s fail as well in some vehicles but all injectors have some rate of failure.I believe from what I have read that the c95s are better, and as long as you have c94s in your truck it is (in my opinion) an unreliable truck and that to me is unacceptable.
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Flounder, from what I am gathering, the C94s have a less than 10% failure rate.
I am curious about the mileage when the failure occured on any injector, whether the owner was draining the horizontal fuel filter once a month or more and if they were using any additive and what brand.
I have a friend that has several diesel trucks both Ford and Chevy. He has had injector failures on both. He doesn't maintain anything. He just runs them untill they break.
I am curious about the mileage when the failure occured on any injector, whether the owner was draining the horizontal fuel filter once a month or more and if they were using any additive and what brand.
I have a friend that has several diesel trucks both Ford and Chevy. He has had injector failures on both. He doesn't maintain anything. He just runs them untill they break.
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Yes I agree that with these motors, as with anything else, are only as good as the maintainence that you do on them.
As for me I do not run any mods,additives or the like. To each his own. I have always followed the manufactuer's recommendations and feel that if you throw any of these things into the game you run an additional risk of screwing with something that it was not designed to handle. Just my opinion.
As for the c94s, they were dropping like flies at first. Its is also my opinion that the flashes have helped solve some of the woes with them. And also my opinion that the c95s are a better design that along with the current flashes will prolong the life of my motor.
I have not been left on the side of the road with this thing, but once would definetly be enough for me. Besides Just replacing one injector at a time is "crazy" to me knowing that each time one fails more fuel in oil and we all know what that does to these motors in the long haul.
As for me I do not run any mods,additives or the like. To each his own. I have always followed the manufactuer's recommendations and feel that if you throw any of these things into the game you run an additional risk of screwing with something that it was not designed to handle. Just my opinion.
As for the c94s, they were dropping like flies at first. Its is also my opinion that the flashes have helped solve some of the woes with them. And also my opinion that the c95s are a better design that along with the current flashes will prolong the life of my motor.
I have not been left on the side of the road with this thing, but once would definetly be enough for me. Besides Just replacing one injector at a time is "crazy" to me knowing that each time one fails more fuel in oil and we all know what that does to these motors in the long haul.
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Guys Sorry Sorry a mistake has been made....
I have not had 2 injectors changed...I called the service tech (not the service counter guys) to get the mileage info you requested and they said no replacement of Injectors, only the ICP Sensor was replaced twice! (not sure what that is). Why the service counter personnel told me it was the injectors i dont know..Sorry bout that
Anyway, it appears I have not had the injectors replaced, BUT my question still stands. If the dealership agreed to doing it ...Would you have all injectors replaced with new ones?
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I have not had 2 injectors changed...I called the service tech (not the service counter guys) to get the mileage info you requested and they said no replacement of Injectors, only the ICP Sensor was replaced twice! (not sure what that is). Why the service counter personnel told me it was the injectors i dont know..Sorry bout thatAnyway, it appears I have not had the injectors replaced, BUT my question still stands. If the dealership agreed to doing it ...Would you have all injectors replaced with new ones?
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Outwest, again, I am almost certain that they will only replace bad injectors. If you want to replace them all you would have to pay. Quit worrying about the C94 injectors. There are a lot of 6.0Ls running around out there with the C94sw.Drain your horizontal fuel/water filter trap often.
Ford even recommends fuel additives and references Stanadyne in one of their service messages. I would use it in the fall and winter months for sure.
Ford even recommends fuel additives and references Stanadyne in one of their service messages. I would use it in the fall and winter months for sure.
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Still waiting on Ford to replace my remaining six c-94 injectors. O-rings were replaced first because of fuel in the oil about 4,000 mi. At 9,000 mi. after the Oct. flash, I lost two injectors hydro-locking the engine leaving me stranded on side of hiway. As long as there remains six of the c-94 injectors in my truck, it will be a unreliable truck. Would not want to take it far from home. Wish Ford would do what is right.
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Tim wasnt it you that finally got them all replaced due to having to wait on each one to fail? How hard did you press them to get them all replaced when they failed each time. Just curious.
Also having read through the history of these injectors I feel a lot of them failed more in their debut, say first couple of months, than they are now. c94s that is. I have a good friend, who is a service writer, said they were dropping like flies when they first came out. Now he hardly sees any and says the problems fixed. Do you feel through your experience the succession of flashes has cured the c94s. Or at least helped save em.
The reason I ask is because even with advent of the c95s ford continues its flash revamps and still is shying away from the PI. Just my observation.
Also having read through the history of these injectors I feel a lot of them failed more in their debut, say first couple of months, than they are now. c94s that is. I have a good friend, who is a service writer, said they were dropping like flies when they first came out. Now he hardly sees any and says the problems fixed. Do you feel through your experience the succession of flashes has cured the c94s. Or at least helped save em.
The reason I ask is because even with advent of the c95s ford continues its flash revamps and still is shying away from the PI. Just my observation.
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SBV45...I understand that..But want I really want to know..hypothetically speaking. IF FORD agreed to do it. Would you get it done. Even if you are having no problems (That you know of) with the C94's. OR Dont mess with something if it aint broke.
My fear in reading all past posts is that its only a matter of time, at 20,000 miles or 100,000 miles. The C94's WILL fail.
My fear in reading all past posts is that its only a matter of time, at 20,000 miles or 100,000 miles. The C94's WILL fail.
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Tim wasnt it you that finally got them all replaced due to having to wait on each one to fail? How hard did you press them to get them all replaced when they failed each time. Just curious.
Also having read through the history of these injectors I feel a lot of them failed more in their debut, say first couple of months, than they are now. c94s that is. I have a good friend, who is a service writer, said they were dropping like flies when they first came out. Now he hardly sees any and says the problems fixed. Do you feel through your experience the succession of flashes has cured the c94s. Or at least helped save em.
The reason I ask is because even with advent of the c95s ford continues its flash revamps and still is shying away from the PI. Just my observation.
Tim wasnt it you that finally got them all replaced due to having to wait on each one to fail? How hard did you press them to get them all replaced when they failed each time. Just curious.
Also having read through the history of these injectors I feel a lot of them failed more in their debut, say first couple of months, than they are now. c94s that is. I have a good friend, who is a service writer, said they were dropping like flies when they first came out. Now he hardly sees any and says the problems fixed. Do you feel through your experience the succession of flashes has cured the c94s. Or at least helped save em.
The reason I ask is because even with advent of the c95s ford continues its flash revamps and still is shying away from the PI. Just my observation.
and if I had the choice I would get them replaced
only under one condition......NO REFLASH....