Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Faulty injectors?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 06:08 PM
  #1  
kinzli's Avatar
kinzli
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Question Faulty injectors?

From reading here, and other forums, it seems that most of the nagging problems of the 03 6.0L PSDs have been resolved in the late 03/early 04 motors. One thing that seems to be happening though is that some folks are experiencing injector failures even in these late motors.

Is it me, or is there a weakness here? I know that on the forums you hear a lot higher percentage of problems per capita than you would see in a real life cross section of owners, but it seems to be one of the things that keeps coming up.

If this is indeed the case, are the injectors likely faulty to begin with, or could the failures have been prevented by different fuel, more regular oil changes and/or different oil/viscocities?

Thanks...
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 07:53 PM
  #2  
SBV45's Avatar
SBV45
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,483
Likes: 2
From: Central Texas
Re: Faulty injectors?

Originally posted by kinzli
From reading here, and other forums, it seems that most of the nagging problems of the 03 6.0L PSDs have been resolved in the late 03/early 04 motors. One thing that seems to be happening though is that some folks are experiencing injector failures even in these late motors.

Is it me, or is there a weakness here? I know that on the forums you hear a lot higher percentage of problems per capita than you would see in a real life cross section of owners, but it seems to be one of the things that keeps coming up.

If this is indeed the case, are the injectors likely faulty to begin with, or could the failures have been prevented by different fuel, more regular oil changes and/or different oil/viscocities?

Thanks...
All diesel engines have some injector failures. Failures might be avoided by different oil/viscosities, more frequent oil changes and I am sure cruddy fuel will aggravate a problem with a weak or poorly manufactured injector.

Some of us with the suspect C94 injectors have been running just fine. I wouldn't worry about it. Do your maintenance on time and err on the side of caution.
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 09:08 PM
  #3  
LoneRacer's Avatar
LoneRacer
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
From: NM
Good recommendation SBV45. I like hearing things like that since I am picking up my new 03 F550 tomorrow. It has an early build date and sure to have the c94 injectors. I have talked to several other owners and I think what you have stated here is very true. I believe some of the problems (not defending c94 injectors here) might be as a result of engines being horse beat. Just an observation and extraction of comments posted on here.

kinzli,
Do you own a 6.0 or looking to buy?
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 09:47 AM
  #4  
BarrelRacer's Avatar
BarrelRacer
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma
I had a Ford diesel mechanic tell me to put a quart of automatic transmission fluid in the fuel.......or two quarts in my case (auxilary tank). He said it would help lubricate the injectors. Dirty fuel I think is also a problem. I only fuel up at the big truck stops that have truckers lined up getting fuel and still I had a problem with dirty fuel. It might be that you would need to change the fuel filters more often also.

He also assured me that DOT could tell the difference between the fuel with transmission fluid and farm fuel.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 01:26 PM
  #5  
SBV45's Avatar
SBV45
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,483
Likes: 2
From: Central Texas
I would NOT put automatic transmission fluid in my fuel. Stanadyne Perfomance Formula is about all I will add to the fuel. Change your filters more often, Yes. Drain the horizontal fuel filter water trap more than the once a month recommendation, yes. But don't go putting something like ATF in your fuel.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 01:40 PM
  #6  
BarrelRacer's Avatar
BarrelRacer
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma
If, that is not good then why would a diesel mechanic at a Ford dealership tell me to do that. BTW, this is the one dealership that has actually been able to fix my truck and fix it right when it has been in there.

Who do you trust if you can't trust Fords own mechanics.
 

Last edited by BarrelRacer; Feb 6, 2004 at 01:45 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 02:45 PM
  #7  
SBV45's Avatar
SBV45
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,483
Likes: 2
From: Central Texas
I have no idea why a mechanic will tell you that. If it is a common practice, I am sure other diesel owners would have heard that by now. Besides, I won't label Ford mechanics by one mechanic at a dealership.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 04:03 PM
  #8  
cravenc's Avatar
cravenc
Freshman User
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
cravenc

I dont know about the 6.0, but I have herd this before from older diesel owners. I would not do this until I was certian it is ok. I would recomend standyne as well.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 05:58 PM
  #9  
IB Tim's Avatar
IB Tim
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 161,999
Likes: 75
From: 3rd Rock
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally posted by LoneRacer
Good recommendation SBV45. I like hearing things like that since I am picking up my new 03 F550 tomorrow. It has an early build date and sure to have the c94 injectors. I have talked to several other owners and I think what you have stated here is very true. I believe some of the problems (not defending c94 injectors here) might be as a result of engines being horse beat. Just an observation and extraction of comments posted on here.

kinzli,
Do you own a 6.0 or looking to buy?

Keep the oil level low and run Mobile Delvac 1

IMO IMO
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 09:45 PM
  #10  
kinzli's Avatar
kinzli
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Originally posted by LoneRacer

kinzli,
Do you own a 6.0 or looking to buy?
I put a deposit down on an 04 Excursion 2 weeks ago and am just waiting for it to arrive at the dealership...they say any day now
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 11:05 PM
  #11  
IB Tim's Avatar
IB Tim
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 161,999
Likes: 75
From: 3rd Rock
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally posted by kinzli
I put a deposit down on an 04 Excursion 2 weeks ago and am just waiting for it to arrive at the dealership...they say any day now
Your gonna love the X
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 11:29 PM
  #12  
kinzli's Avatar
kinzli
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Originally posted by Tim Lamkin
Your gonna love the X
I think so, I'm just really timid about spending $50k on a truck (alright, SUV) that seems to be causing so many folks so much grief.

I wanted to buy a diesel due to the durability and longevity, as well as the towing potential. I'm just really worried about the motor/trans and whether it's gonna last 150 or 200k miles (just like everyone else seems to be).

I realize a forum like this has a much higher complaint ratio than the "real world" - since many folks come here to solve their problems. That being said, it doesn't make it much easier to shell out the samolians for something that doesn't instill too much confidence.

I'm gonna wait until my Ex arrives and see how I feel about it when I drive it first, my gut is usually right

Thanks for all the help!
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 07:41 AM
  #13  
IB Tim's Avatar
IB Tim
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 161,999
Likes: 75
From: 3rd Rock
Club FTE Gold Member
Understood, however you have been reading so you have knowledge about things like oil type, oil level. Do not chip the thing, all kinds of good intelligent information.
So drive on and stay with us and keep learning.


You are welcome for the help, and hope all the FTE folks can/will help you.
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 09:45 AM
  #14  
"Luke" SdeS's Avatar
"Luke" SdeS
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 695
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Fm SBVP45

I am sure other diesel owners would have heard that by now
Actually, that has been expressed by others..
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 11:37 PM
  #15  
figmo's Avatar
figmo
New User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Newberry Springs, Ca.
Several years ago when they took most of the sulfur out of diesel fuel, some of the big rig owners used to use ATF with their fuel. At that time some were loosing seals on their fuel pumps. Apparently the sulfur was a lubricant for those seals. Eventually the fuel pump manufacturers replaced those seals with different ones. That is what I heard.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE