I need a new computer
#1
I need a new computer
My old computer is a 466 mg, P2. It's 4 years old and I want a new one.
What kind should I get? Emachine, HP, Compaq, Dell, Gateway?
What kind of experience have you guys had with these brands?
I heard yesterday that Gateway has bought Emachines.
Walmart has a deal on a HP or Compaq for $498.00.
Intel celeron 2.6g, 17" monitor, 128mg. and more.
Office Depot has an Emachines outfit for $346.00 after rebates.
I want to stay below $550.00. I know,I know I'm cheap-you are too,right!
You folks have opinions. Let's hear them. Please.
Clava1
1995 Ford F-150 4x4 351W E4od Blue and White Ext cab
183,000 miles
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What kind should I get? Emachine, HP, Compaq, Dell, Gateway?
What kind of experience have you guys had with these brands?
I heard yesterday that Gateway has bought Emachines.
Walmart has a deal on a HP or Compaq for $498.00.
Intel celeron 2.6g, 17" monitor, 128mg. and more.
Office Depot has an Emachines outfit for $346.00 after rebates.
I want to stay below $550.00. I know,I know I'm cheap-you are too,right!
You folks have opinions. Let's hear them. Please.
Clava1
1995 Ford F-150 4x4 351W E4od Blue and White Ext cab
183,000 miles
Have you driven a Ford lately?
#3
I suggest : Have one built for you at a local business.
1) That way Service is close enough to drive or ride the bus to.
2) Made with the components you want
3) The price will be comparable to Big Box Stores
4) You will be supporting a local business make sure first that this company will still be around in 5 years.)
1) That way Service is close enough to drive or ride the bus to.
2) Made with the components you want
3) The price will be comparable to Big Box Stores
4) You will be supporting a local business make sure first that this company will still be around in 5 years.)
#4
I was eyeballing that HP at WalMart too, it has everything I had to buy separately for mine at half the price. Just remember you'll have to go in and delete all the useless garbage they preinstall for you.
Having one custom-built for you is a good idea. If there is one of those computer expos coming near you (we have them every few months) that's a good place to meet your local vendors and make contacts. Plus peripherals and software are a lot cheaper.
Having one custom-built for you is a good idea. If there is one of those computer expos coming near you (we have them every few months) that's a good place to meet your local vendors and make contacts. Plus peripherals and software are a lot cheaper.
#5
I just replaced my old Gateway at home with another. Tried to buy from a local computer company, but their unit was TWICE Gateway's price. I'll spend a little more to deal locally, but not double. The new one is their 310 with celeron, 256K/ 64 meg, Windows XP, 17" flat-screen LCD monitor. It cost $649. Pentium 4 is $100 more (don't need it 'cause I NEVER DO ANYTHING WITH GAMES OR MOVIES). I've got the sole Compaq at work- it's OK, ITS problems are associated with windows 98 (no surprise there). Most of our others are eMachines, they're cheap and it shows. Run VERY slow, constant glitches.
#7
http://www.gotapex.com/deals.php . But, as Dennis said, you should see what youre local computer stores offer. If you get the blue screen of death, or worse, you will probably be glad that you can run right down there and have it take care of.
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#8
I've had lousy luck with both HP and Compaq computers. Last December when I decided to upgrade I called Dell, but it seemed as though my phone call got transfered to India; they were incapable/not interested in understanding what I was looking for and transfered my phone call from department to department until I was back where I started; total time wasted was 30 minutes and only because I gave up waiting for them and hung up. Nice company. It was obvious their customer service was no better than HP and Compaq.
In the end, I researched and built my own computer. My major supplier of componenets is just 3 1/2 miles (10 minutes) from my house and when I need to talk/get support I can do it in person and face-to-face, not via telephone to India or wherever else. Yeah, the components cost a bit more than they would if I bought online, but I can talk to a real live human being to get things resolved, not some automated touch tone telephone voice that directs me to a website or some "tech" that knows less than I do.
On a lighter note, I seem to have had back luck 2X in a row until I built my own computer. I have buddies tha have HP, Compaq, Dell, and Emachines and they are 100% satisfied. IMHO, if you bring these machines home and if they work like they are supposed to, then you'll be just fine. On the other hand, these "off-the-shelf machines are not always lending to future upgrades or performance "tinkering" on behalf of the user. I might get some nasty feedback for this, but I'd look for an AMD processor. When you compare performance (and performance IS what matters overall; processor frequency in itself is NOT everything, contrary to popular belief) of AMD vs Intel, you will find that AMD offers more for the buck. The performance comparisons should speak for themselves.
On edit:
Here just one comparison of AMD vs Intel. Oddly, hyper threading, which should improve Intel performance acutally hurts it in this comparison.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...4_3750,00.html
In the end, I researched and built my own computer. My major supplier of componenets is just 3 1/2 miles (10 minutes) from my house and when I need to talk/get support I can do it in person and face-to-face, not via telephone to India or wherever else. Yeah, the components cost a bit more than they would if I bought online, but I can talk to a real live human being to get things resolved, not some automated touch tone telephone voice that directs me to a website or some "tech" that knows less than I do.
On a lighter note, I seem to have had back luck 2X in a row until I built my own computer. I have buddies tha have HP, Compaq, Dell, and Emachines and they are 100% satisfied. IMHO, if you bring these machines home and if they work like they are supposed to, then you'll be just fine. On the other hand, these "off-the-shelf machines are not always lending to future upgrades or performance "tinkering" on behalf of the user. I might get some nasty feedback for this, but I'd look for an AMD processor. When you compare performance (and performance IS what matters overall; processor frequency in itself is NOT everything, contrary to popular belief) of AMD vs Intel, you will find that AMD offers more for the buck. The performance comparisons should speak for themselves.
On edit:
Here just one comparison of AMD vs Intel. Oddly, hyper threading, which should improve Intel performance acutally hurts it in this comparison.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...4_3750,00.html
Last edited by CowboyBilly9Mile; 02-03-2004 at 08:45 PM.
#9
Guys, thanks a bunch for the replys.
As for upgrading the one I've got, the monitor is going out. Some
pictures are very dark, and I have it as bright as it will go. The lowest price I have found locally is about $119.00 @ Walmart.
Most of the deals I have seen have been a computer bundle, including the monitor.
All the points you guys have made are good. I guess I will keep scratching my head for a few more days until I decide which route to go.
Thanks again,
Clava
1995 Ford F-150
Have you driven a Ford lately? I have and I love it!!
As for upgrading the one I've got, the monitor is going out. Some
pictures are very dark, and I have it as bright as it will go. The lowest price I have found locally is about $119.00 @ Walmart.
Most of the deals I have seen have been a computer bundle, including the monitor.
All the points you guys have made are good. I guess I will keep scratching my head for a few more days until I decide which route to go.
Thanks again,
Clava
1995 Ford F-150
Have you driven a Ford lately? I have and I love it!!
#11
#12
I've had good luck with my Dell. My wife's Dell is good too.
I previously had Compaqs and they were ok too but the customer service wasn't that great. And yes when you call Dell's tech support you talk to someone in India but they really dont seem that bad. I'd rather talk to someone on our side of the pond but.....
I previously had Compaqs and they were ok too but the customer service wasn't that great. And yes when you call Dell's tech support you talk to someone in India but they really dont seem that bad. I'd rather talk to someone on our side of the pond but.....
#13
#14
I suggest you check out www.tigerdirect.com
I've purchased a number of computers through them for business and home. Have had good luck with AMD Atholon and Pentium 4 processors, but would shy away from Duron and Celeron. Have been real happy with two laptops I recently purchased that were HP refurbished. Also pleased with Dell. I wouldn't buy another Gateway...the components were proprietary and expensive to upgrade. I think you could get a decent desktop setup with recordable CD & DVD for under $500 through Tiger. Also, if you're comfortable building it yourself they've got some real good values in barebones systems.
Good Luck
I've purchased a number of computers through them for business and home. Have had good luck with AMD Atholon and Pentium 4 processors, but would shy away from Duron and Celeron. Have been real happy with two laptops I recently purchased that were HP refurbished. Also pleased with Dell. I wouldn't buy another Gateway...the components were proprietary and expensive to upgrade. I think you could get a decent desktop setup with recordable CD & DVD for under $500 through Tiger. Also, if you're comfortable building it yourself they've got some real good values in barebones systems.
Good Luck
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Originally posted by mbnv992
It's easy -
Dell - Home PC
Laptop - Toshiba
It's easy -
Dell - Home PC
Laptop - Toshiba
If you're looking for the least expensive/budget machine, then buy whatever's on sale. Those cheap HP/emachines etc. are often very limited in their capacities to upgrade, if at all. They're like disposable lighters. They will work well during their limited life span. When done, throw them out and buy a new one. As cheap as they are, it's easy to do.