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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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292 intake manifold torque specification Riddle ???

Does anyone know why the torque values for all the intake bolts & studs are the same when you have course thread bolts on the ends of the manifold, but the studs in the middle of the manifold are course thread on one end and fine thread on the other end.
I would think that a fine thread would apply more tension than a course thread at the same torque value, and standard SAE charts show higher torque values for fine threads.
And don't some people replace these studs with bolts, making all the intake bolts course thread and then setting the torque the same as if they had the fine thread studs?
perhaps the torque values are not as critical as I have always thought.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Must be a slow day somewhere

Cant remember the last time I used a torque wrench on the intake either. I think it was back when they still had the type with that little pointy thing that wiggled around to the left and right.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Thank you for your freindly informed response.
At least we have a super expert to tell us to throw out those time consuming technical manuals, and get rid of that troublesome torque wrench. not to mention the stupid people that write those manuals. but if you are to weak to twist off a bolt then I guess you have no problems.
I hope you didn't strain your genius to reply to such a stupid question, but if your so smart why even bother to reply, Especially when it takes you so many words to say you don't know.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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OK newbie, take your nasty unwelcome self back to the other forum where you just got similar info.
This forum mixes a little bit of humor along with Y Block 101 thru grad school.

We dont need your type here.
Bye bye.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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The Great thing about this forum is is you take away a little bit of lnfo from as many people as possible and decide for your self! But you don't dis the one you dont agree with. you asked a question and one of the more respected and informed members here tried to help you and you are being an ***! You even pissed me off with your response. I haveing not even asked this question have learned from 286merc's answer. I also agree with his wish for you to Go Away!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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i asked a simple question and was attacked by a mean spirited person, I found no humor in his insulting reply and will gladly never return to this sight and regret ever having to deal with rude people like you!!!!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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It's not that you asked a question that was the problem, its your reply to his answer that was out of line. I got his point. And feel less worried, about when I get to that point in my project. I get the sense you dont have a clue about how he tried to help, or about How you where an ***!!! There is nothing we can do for you here. But good luck Else Where.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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I wonder if my answer of "Tight's tight and too tight's broke," would have gone over better?
 
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I think the weather is getting to some folks. Torque values are not as critical with a lot of older equipment. The machine tolerances were not so close that the torque distortion was important in normal operation. The maintanance facilities were often truly field repairs. Yes we want to do it right, but today's demanding requirements are the reason you see so few of these machines working well past obsolescence.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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a good one we used to use was - tighten till it strips then back it off a quarter turn : )
 
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