boggers or tsl's?
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boggers or tsl's?
Hello,
I want to buy new 35x14.5x15 tires. I was thinking between these 2. I had the tsl's but they were bald on the truck when i got it. I now have mtr's. I think they look funny. Or that could be because they are 12.5 and not 14.5.
I want an aggressive tire. I probably use the truck 50 % on road and 50% offroad. Are either of these tires better for my application? Would one of them wear quicker than the other. I would hate to buy these tires every few years. I really like the looks of the boggers but to me it looks like they would wear out quick if i go on the highway.
Any one ride with either of these tires?
Thanks
I want to buy new 35x14.5x15 tires. I was thinking between these 2. I had the tsl's but they were bald on the truck when i got it. I now have mtr's. I think they look funny. Or that could be because they are 12.5 and not 14.5.
I want an aggressive tire. I probably use the truck 50 % on road and 50% offroad. Are either of these tires better for my application? Would one of them wear quicker than the other. I would hate to buy these tires every few years. I really like the looks of the boggers but to me it looks like they would wear out quick if i go on the highway.
Any one ride with either of these tires?
Thanks
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for 50% street driving i would stick with mtr's,
boggers will be best off road, with tsls following a close second
your lucky to get 15000 miles out of a set of boggers, maybe 20 from tsl's, from my experiance, tsls are quieter and have the better road manners of the two
boggers will be best off road, with tsls following a close second
your lucky to get 15000 miles out of a set of boggers, maybe 20 from tsl's, from my experiance, tsls are quieter and have the better road manners of the two
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listen to Ho, he has a few sets of each
. I can say the mt/r's are horrible in mud but not too shabby crawlin (we have a set right now)! They wear as good as an aggressive tire can wear w/o sacrificing road manners and bad street-ability
don't know about street life right now but IROK's seem to be holding up nicely!
-jason-
. I can say the mt/r's are horrible in mud but not too shabby crawlin (we have a set right now)! They wear as good as an aggressive tire can wear w/o sacrificing road manners and bad street-abilitydon't know about street life right now but IROK's seem to be holding up nicely!
-jason-
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I just mounted the TSL SSR Radial's, Swampers newest tire. They are completely unstoppable in the mud and wet sand. Not too noisy on the highway but vibrate alot. I get a vibration at 65+ mph. I may try on-the-truck balancing to see if that works, at least on the fronts.
I'm not too sure how many highway miles I'm going to get out of them. I paid 200 bucks a piece for them so I'm hoping for at least 30K miles. Does anyone know what air pressure to run these on the highway is best and how many miles I can expect to get out of them??
Tom
I'm not too sure how many highway miles I'm going to get out of them. I paid 200 bucks a piece for them so I'm hoping for at least 30K miles. Does anyone know what air pressure to run these on the highway is best and how many miles I can expect to get out of them??
Tom
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do a chalk test to see what the best psi is best. I run 22 up front and 20 out back give or take 1/2 psi! I am running 39.5" IROK's and they seem to be doing awesome! But I haven't had them long...so I am in the same boat you are!
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Jason,
The chalk test will tell me when all lugs are laying flat on the groud correct? Hmm, on the highway after I leave from mudding at 20lbs of pressure, my outer lug edges still don't sit firmly on the ground. But my tires make alot of noise and get very hot at that pressure. I can't imagine running 70 mph on the highway with less then 20lbs of air. The SSR are kid of roundish anyway, so I'm not sure if it's possible to get all the lugs to lay flat on the pavement, unless I drop them down to 10 pounds. But then I'm pretty new at this lifting stuff. My Fabtech 7.5" Crossmember kit comes in on Thursday, so I'm not even running lifted yet, except for the 2" leveling kit I put in last weekend.
Tom
The chalk test will tell me when all lugs are laying flat on the groud correct? Hmm, on the highway after I leave from mudding at 20lbs of pressure, my outer lug edges still don't sit firmly on the ground. But my tires make alot of noise and get very hot at that pressure. I can't imagine running 70 mph on the highway with less then 20lbs of air. The SSR are kid of roundish anyway, so I'm not sure if it's possible to get all the lugs to lay flat on the pavement, unless I drop them down to 10 pounds. But then I'm pretty new at this lifting stuff. My Fabtech 7.5" Crossmember kit comes in on Thursday, so I'm not even running lifted yet, except for the 2" leveling kit I put in last weekend.
Tom
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that's right....that's the method i have always used and I have gotten really good results!
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What tires were you running previously? They look like Swampers in your picture gallery. What pressures where you running in those and how many miles did you get out of them.
Your 6" kit looks really high, I hope I didn't bite off more than I can chew with the 7.5" kit.
Tom
Your 6" kit looks really high, I hope I didn't bite off more than I can chew with the 7.5" kit.
Tom
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Although the chalk test is the best way to determine proper inflation, I've never found it to work right with the cut of a Swamper.
Boggers are a softer compound than a swamper btw, and won't last long on the road. They are a handfull (at least the big ones, I don't know about the little ones) too....thats why I have a set of swampers for on road duty. I run 'em around 26psi on road.
Boggers are a softer compound than a swamper btw, and won't last long on the road. They are a handfull (at least the big ones, I don't know about the little ones) too....thats why I have a set of swampers for on road duty. I run 'em around 26psi on road.
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From: Florida
Wow! How long did it take you to build that thing??!!! It's awsome. I hope my truck looks like that one day.
How many miles do you get out of your swampers? At least 20K I hope. For 200 bucks per tire, I can't afford to be buying new ones every 6 months.
Another thing, it's pretty cold where you are now right? And you measure your psi when your tires are cold....Ice cold. If you measure your tires ice cold at 26psi in 10 degree weather, then you drive down to florida where its 75 degrees, your tires are going to register a much higher psi when cold, because the cold temp is 60 degrees warmer. So, even in my area, you think that 26psi is good measured when cold?
Thanks,
Tom
Tom
How many miles do you get out of your swampers? At least 20K I hope. For 200 bucks per tire, I can't afford to be buying new ones every 6 months.
Another thing, it's pretty cold where you are now right? And you measure your psi when your tires are cold....Ice cold. If you measure your tires ice cold at 26psi in 10 degree weather, then you drive down to florida where its 75 degrees, your tires are going to register a much higher psi when cold, because the cold temp is 60 degrees warmer. So, even in my area, you think that 26psi is good measured when cold?
Thanks,
Tom
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Thanks, it will always be a work in progress, like all my rigs. I figure I should get @ 20k of good solid miles out of my swampers, since I stay on top of tire pressure and rotate them. I imagine you'd get more since yours are radial. I'm thinking if your radials are still calling for 30psi max, then you would be perfectly fine running yours at 26psi cold...the pressure will just go up anyways. I haven't had any problems and I guarantee I've got more weight riding on mine.
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Yeah, I'm sure your truck is MUCH heavier. My sidewall says the max pressure is 80lbs!! Wow, I couldn't imagine running that in them. My truck would be one big super ball 
I'm going to try 26-30 cold and see how they wear. rotate them every 5K like Interco suggests. I just got my lift kit in 15 minutes ago. Now I'm freaking out because I want to go home and install it, however I have to wait til saturday so I have a full day to screw around with it.
Tom
I'm going to try 26-30 cold and see how they wear. rotate them every 5K like Interco suggests. I just got my lift kit in 15 minutes ago. Now I'm freaking out because I want to go home and install it, however I have to wait til saturday so I have a full day to screw around with it.
Tom
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Oy....I thought I read that you mentioned the max pressure was 30psi...just like the bias tires (sounded weird to me, but hey, I don't know jack about the interco radials). That being the case...I'd say all bets are off. Radials are made to run at a higher pressure (though thats crazy those suckers say 80psi max!?)
I think I'd stick with 35psi cold and just watch your wear on them. Sorry if a gave confusing advice but I must have misunderstood what I read earlier.
I think I'd stick with 35psi cold and just watch your wear on them. Sorry if a gave confusing advice but I must have misunderstood what I read earlier.
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Yeah, supposedly the sidewalls on Bias ply's are stronger than on radials. The whole reason I bought the radials instead of the bias is because i do more highway driving than off road driving, but I still wanted a good aggressive tread for deep mud. Because when I do go off road, it's nasty. I'm usually in mud and water high enough that it comes up over the hood of my truck, so I need something aggressive, but I also need it good for the highway. I know, I want the best of both worlds. Sometimes you just can't have that.
Tom
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Originally posted by Busa01
Yeah, supposedly the sidewalls on Bias ply's are stronger than on radials. Tom
Yeah, supposedly the sidewalls on Bias ply's are stronger than on radials. Tom