Does anybody have specs from a big name magazine. The Z06 does out accelerate the cobra. It does out handle the cobra. It might even brake quicker. I have personally watched many Z06s at the strip. They run deep 12s with amature drivers. They also cost a whole lot more than the cobra. I think ford wanted to build an affordable sports car teetering on the verge of being called a supercar and they definitely succeeded. If the cobra beats the Z06 in any areas than thats a bad on chevy's part for letting that happen to their high dollar masterpiece.

BTW, I hate how vettes feel and ride. I would never own one. Just my opinion.

 

that V10 was made from two 4.6 (281CI) blocks cut apart and welded back together.
same with the cobra R heads
it comes out to 5.8L (351CI)

it's a 10 cylinder cobra R engine
5.0 said it ate 8 cluthes thats all.
they said HP and TQ are around 400... yea sure what ever.

 

cobras can run faster than 13.1 stock.
try 12.8s, 1.8 60 ft
low 12s with a lightning blower pully
high 11s with pully and slicks.
has been done lots of times.
alot of magazine editors aren't good drivers.

 

First of all it was posted that the Cobra would beat the vette, and then it was posted that it would beat the z-06 at which point I along with others disagree.. Now you are correct the comparison is apples to oranges but comparing the cobra to even a regular vette is apples to oranges. why not compare a regular GT to a regular vette. No nevermind cause that would put the mustang behind again and I know you cant have that!!!!

I really don't know anything about the new GT? is it SVT? and is it actually in production, cause I'll be the first to give it props if it can outperform the Z-06. But i do stand by may previous posts in reguards to the 03 cobra and 02 Z-06

 

Then i guess its safe to say the z-06 runs better than mid 12's since thats what the magazine editors pushed it to.

 

I think the ZO6 runs very low 12s stock
cobra 13.10 s @ 109.4 mph
zo6 12.50 s @ 116.3 mph
I wonder why the didn't post 60 ft times
60 ft times would help.
both cars MPH is a little high for the ET
I'd say they were slow off the line or spinning.
the cobra can run .4 quicker @ the same MPH
I'm sure the zo6 can do the same (I hope it can)

 

bigdieseldav....Geez, you're gonna' take a stab at me just because I happen to know a few things huh? That's not cool.

The Cobra barely costs over 30K (less than most people pay for their pickup trucks), and you can then do a $75 modification to it and run 12 second quarter-miles, and you are saying it's not in the Vette's league??? Give me a break guys.

And for the record, no I don't work a farm. We work in the material handling equipment business. Not only do we have to use extremely powerful pickup trucks to do our jobs efficiently, but we also service and repair diesel engines in equipment too. So yeah, I do happen to know a lot about diesel engines.

You got any more smart comments? I never took a stab at you, and now you are mad just because I happen to be one of the few people around here that has some experience with these things and can offer a good opinion. What's up with that?

 

I can also buy a 93 Dodge Stealth AWD Twin Turbo for $9500, add a $200 NOS kit to it, and run 12's all day long. Does that mean it is a better car than the Cobra and the Vette because it is just as quick and $20,000 cheaper?

 

Hey WXboy

I really meant no malice in my post, and i won't get into the specifics reguarding most of your comments in the PSD vs. Cummins threads since this is the Cobra thread, but my point was that first of all you stated in several posts that you lived near an international plant so you had the inside scoop on all the Powerstroke drama and then in this thread now you live near the plant where the Z-06 is produced???? Are the two plants really that close in proximity to one another or is Kentucky just that small of a state?? At any rate living next to a plant doesn't mean you know anything. I live within 5 miles of Dyess Air Force Base, but don't expect me to be an expert or have experience with the planes that fly in and out of here, see my point?? It would also be different if your posts were a little less biased and fact filled. You have your mind made up before you even start to type with little regard for the facts. Were talking stock vehicles, the Cobra doesnt have a chance against a Z-06. If we were talking aftermarket or mods, I've seen Ram 2500 's put down mid 12's and F-350's one with yes a Cummins put down mid to low 11's. So by that token are they now in the same class as the Z-06.

As EV2DEMON illustrated with his post, you can make anything run like hell but think in terms of stock and you'll see the point. And besides that the .6 tenths of a sec that the Vette has over the Cobra is a pretty big difference in the quarter mile.. considering it is not supercharged(i wish they would do that and end the debate)

Last but not least, It was not my intention to offend you with my post, but I get aggrivated when people are blatantly biased when they post. Anyway try not to stay Peeved at me, i meant no harm and i hope you understood what i am trying to get across, and if you are just a die hard cummins, cobra kinda guy then i've just typed alot for nothing

 

It seems that speed is only part of why you would buy a sports car. I would prefer one that felt nicer than a different option even if it had 30hp less. I doubt most people buying these sports cars are gonna know the difference anyhow, so the overall look and feel is more important.

 

I agree with WXboy! Ford did the right thing in making a Mustang that can compete with the corvette. All on a tight budget!

 

Ok...this is where bigdieseldav got confused. I do not recall WXboy saying a Mustang could smoke a vette Z-06??? Did I miss something??? Or did you just fab up some wrong info? What I remember reading was the Mustang S/C Cobra will smoke "a" corvette. Where did you dig-up the Z-06?

If anyone is being rediculous...it has to be bigdieseldav. I really got a good laugh out of your comment that Ford doesn't have a sport car to compete against the corvette. Humm...I think the Ford GT with the S/C 5.4L making 500hp and 500 torque qualifies. Actually, not only does it put the vette to sleep where it belongs, but does so with ease! So...I think FORD does have an answer to the corvette/Z-06. In both performance and style!

 

You could be right biz, about the gt 5.4 sc. And I did openly acknowledge that i was not familiar with that particular car and if it outperformed the vette that i would give it its props, so props are now properly given, but to answer your question the z-06 was brought up by someone else and i was only stating that it would not beat it nor compete with it. Now having said that, I never said the new GT wouldn't only that the 03 Cobra wouldn't. I asked earlier but it never got answered: Is the new GT a SVT product and is it in production or is it just another look what I made and didn't follow up thing. Anyway do you have the numbers on the GT? I'm curious to learn

I didn't get confused at all.. the statement by WXboy "the mustang cobra will smoke a corvette" is the samething as saying my PSD will smoke a car. It will smoke a lot of cars but not all and I was simply referencing the Z-06 to let him know that the cobra will not smoke all vets, know what i mean??

 

The simple fact is that just because one car will out accelerate another, doesn't mean it will smoke it. What I'm saying is, a blown pro street 57 Chevy that runs 9's will beat a Cobra to the 1/4 mile, but put the 2 on a road course, and the Cobra will leave the 57 way behind. Remember, there is more to "performance" cars than just flat out acceleration. Acceleration, handling, and braking all add together to make a performance car package.

Also, a Stock Cobra is in the low 13's, high 12's. A Stock LS1 Vette is about equal to that. A LS6 Z06 is in the Low 12's stock. I'd hardly call running dead even with, or a even a few hundredths quicker than, a stock base Vette "smoking." It it's acceleration equal to or comparable to a Vettes? Sure, but hardly capable of smoking one. WXboy's statement that a Cobra would smoke a Vette implied that it would smoke any factory Vette, and that simply isn't the case at all. Saying a Z06 isn't comparable to a Cobra is silly as well. If the highest level Mustang is only comparable to the base Vette, what is that saying?

Sometimes I wonder if some of you guys would buy a stinky pile of dog crap with a Ford emblem on it and still think it was the best thing ever made. After all, it says Ford right?

 

This is the info that I found on the Ford GT. Yes, it is a production model coming out this 2004 spring as a 2005. Car and Driver did a "Super" car match up with Ferrari Challenge Stradale, Porsche 911 GT3, and Ford GT. Guess who won?! Yes...you guessed it...the Ford GT.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1


Specs:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/specs.asp

To answer your question about the GT coming from SVT? No. SVT only puts out the SVT Focus, Cobra, and Lightining respectfully. The GT is from the Ford Racing Team. This super race car will compete at Le Mans amoung other races. They go for about $150,000.00 from the factory. Of course the Le Mans version might be a tad more...haha.

You are right that WXboy did say what he said...and that your PSD will smoke some cars too. Point is..."he is right". Now for the Z-06 issue. In your statement you did point out towards WXboy...not EV2DEMON...as EV2 made the Z-06 statement.

When we reply to a thread, we need to make certain we are accurate to a particular response. All it takes is one mis-read...and the entire thread could spin-off the intended topic.

Take a look at the links...and enjoy the reading. Sure is nice to have Ford back in the "Super" car business.