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yeah, I always get a kick out of 4x4 pickups passing me doing 60-70 Mph on the glare ice (I drive a 4x4 truck also) but they think since they have this big 4x4 they can do anything - NOT SO TRUE!!! You always seem to see them in the ditch 2 miles later. Braking and handling are still the same - only accelerations is helped by the 4x4 for the most part - plus you have the laws of physics that once an object is in motion it tends to stay in motion until acted opon by an outside force - and Force equals Mass x acceleration - thus more mass, the more force keeping it in motion and the more likely it is to go careening off the road!!
Whenver there is a dusting of snow, the roads around here get slick, so I try and stay home when that happens, or brave the 5 minutes to a snow packed parking lot. Emtpy might I add.
Having grown up in northern Vermont, if you didn't learn how to drive in ice and snow, you didn't drive. I can keep a car on the snowy road at 70, but it's the other drivers that keep me from doing that very often. Never yet have I damaged a car from sliding off of snow or ice. I wouldn't want to hit someone else and hurt them though, so it's late at night or in the boonies. Here in S.W. Idaho, people don't even know what snow is, much less have the slightest clue about how to drive on it. A high percentage of displaced Californicaters don't help things a bit. You would be amazed by how much traction you actually have in snow, you just have to know how to use it. What kills me is how people manage to go off a straight road. Cut the wheel and stomp on the brakes?
One thing I found interesting was when visiting Dallas, to them the slipperyness of rain is about the same as snow is to us up here in Michigan.
It's like they are so used to being lead foots, that rain causes them to loose control more often. And the accident rates seem to be about equivalent to our first snows of the year up here.
Don't even get me started about watching the southerners in the news driving on ice- now thats comedy!
I, for one, was always glad to see these fools driving too fast in the snow/ice. During my high school/college days, I would drive around in my '78 F150 4X4 and pull them out at $10 - $20 a pop. Those idiots paid for that truck many times over. Plus the added benefit of letting the tires loose on the last pull and spraying the other car with slush (my truck was primer black),,, "Awww,, ain't she just purty??"
lol, i live 200 yards from the highway. We dont get snow too much, but next time i will be out there trying to make a little money. People around here have no clue how to drive in snow. And to make it worse, i live by the beach so there are tourists every 15 feet.
I have a high way in my back yard actualy 2 a big cloverleaf interchange. So I get to see alot of cashes because of stupid people tht hink that their Suburban, Excursion, any 4X4 realy can go any where. If I had a dollar for every foot of vehicle paint on those gard rails I could pint my truck with PPG paint. I learned about Ice and 4X4s last year. My mom let me drive her 98 5.0 XLT full time 4X4 Explorer to school and I cougt black ice and put it in a dich and rolled it I walked away it only put 2 dents in the truck but now because of me she has a 99 5.0 Limited full time 4X4 Explorer.
Yo camo4stealth I live in SE Idaho and we do have snow on the roads here...in fact I don't think the state of Idaho knows the proper way to remove snow from the roads! As for driving in it, I'm a snowmobiler so I'm hauling my sled on a trailer around when I get the chance and I have to deal with those idiots all the time especially when they have 4 wheel drive and want to pass. Uhhh let's see, is that a bunch of slush in the middle of the road. First they get in the other lane which you KNOW scared the heck out of them and then they decide that well I'm here I might as well pass and then they almost lose it in front of you when they cut you off coming back over. Stupid bone heads! I drive 78 miles each way to work and back and that's WITH a canyon thrown in so there's been days I've been praying and gripping the wheel pretty hard as people slid by me. If I can stay home I do on the bad days. A lot of times it's the canyon thats bad and the rest is ok. But the fact is...idiots are everywhere. You'd think they'd think...snow, ice, slippery. oh well the tow truck drivers gotta make a living. It's just too bad the ambulance and paramedics get a work out too.
I agree, people in SW Idaho don't have a clue. It snows 2" and you see 85 of them in the ditch. Where I'm from, 2" doesn't even qualify as snowing! I really like the lowered Hondas and stuff that can't even go in the stuff, but they manage to move them far enough to get them stuck. Idaho uses solar powered snow removal.
Thanks Camo, I never knew Idaho was so proactively progressive. Overrun of liberals up there complaining about fuel usage? Or is the money being diverted to "needed" things like the governor's ski resort?
This Sunday, here in Va we got 5" of snow and about 1/4" of ice on top of it. They are even calling for more snow/ice today and into the night. It's been fun cruzing the roads on the fourwheeler...hehehe