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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Respirator compressor

I've been holding off on a lot of two stage projects, just because I'm tired of using my charcol mask. The respirator doesn't concern me much, but I was wondering about the compressor. Will any small oil-less with filters do? Just wondering what others use...
 
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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I bought my air supplied system about 10 years ago. I just got the package that my paint store offered. About $600 at that time. It has a small oil-less compressor that I mounted on a shelf outside the wall under the overhang. I've never had a problem with it.

The charcoal masks require just a little more effort to breath because you have to pull that air through the charcoal. The air supplied ones make breathing more effortless, leaving you a little less winded after an overall paint job!! - especially for old guys like me! Of course you have an extra hose to drag around though. (has a belt clip - not too much of a problem)

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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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I agree with Marc. A fresh-air respirator is the only way to go. Especially with the 2-part urethanes containing isocyanates.

As you probably know, 1-time exposure to isocyanates can have life-changing affects and there is no way to tell who will be affected. One of the reasons OSHA requires fresh-air respirators for isocyanates is because they are odorless. There is no way to tell when your carbon respirator has stopped working.

I use a unit called Hobbyair. Had it for about 5 years. I use it for painting, sanding, and sandblasting. Eastwood sells them but if you do an Internet search, I think you can find them cheaper. $400-$600 depending on what you get.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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Thanks guys!
I've used my cartridge mask for years with just about everything. I sprayed a car with urethane in my garage about 10 years ago and it made me sick. Didn't use it again till last summer on a motorcycle, (BC), and did it outside. Turned out OK, except for the pollen and dust. I've got airless expirience with primers, enamels, laquers, etc and I can deal with those - that urethane kind of scared me.

The boss has a nice Binks fresh air respirator that he's never used. I was thinking of buying it and using a small oil-less, new hose and filters with it. Do your systems have anything else I would need to have?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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The Hobbyair has a box approximately 10"X10"X10" in size. A HEPA filter attaches to the box. You set the box outside, in the fresh air. A hose attaches to the box and leads to your mask. You can use either a full-face mask or a half-mask. I use a half-mask and put a moon suit hood on. The moon suit hood is pressurized from the mask exhaust and provides my head protection from the fumes.

If you are using air from a regular compressor, you need to be concerned about some additional factors. Ordinary air from an air compressor should not be used for breathing without additional filtering and carbon monoxide monitoring.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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27 years ago I warned the Plant Manager in our company about the use of isocyanates and their dangers. We used it in spray in packing foam. I was basicly told that it was no problem and was approved by OSHA. Curious thing however; the young man that used that equipment didn't report to work for 2 days. This was about two years later. Police found him dead in his apartment; death ruled "natural, unknown causes".
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 01:56 AM
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Yupe !!

A few years ago, Union Carbide had an isocyanate release in India. It killed hundreds.
 
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