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Hello everyone, it's been a while since I have posted anything. Kinda been busy with my new baby girl 
! Anyway, I have a question about the brakes on my truck. This weekend, I was backing my 24ft pontoon into the lake and it took all I could to stop it and my truck. I installed new brakes all the way around about 7,000 miles ago and have had no problems until now. Before everyone says something about the drive to the lake, there wasn't one. I live on the lake and my ramp to the water is about 300ft long on about 30 degrees. The truck hadn't been driven for 2 days before. Now, since this happened it pulls to the right when the brakes are applied. I have checked the obvious and everything looks fine. Please help with suggestions!
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Scott
! Anyway, I have a question about the brakes on my truck. This weekend, I was backing my 24ft pontoon into the lake and it took all I could to stop it and my truck. I installed new brakes all the way around about 7,000 miles ago and have had no problems until now. Before everyone says something about the drive to the lake, there wasn't one. I live on the lake and my ramp to the water is about 300ft long on about 30 degrees. The truck hadn't been driven for 2 days before. Now, since this happened it pulls to the right when the brakes are applied. I have checked the obvious and everything looks fine. Please help with suggestions!Thanks
Scott
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the pedal goes to the floor and it also whistles. The pedal only goes to the floor if I have alot of pressure applied and it takes it a second to go. But what gets me is the whistling of the pedal before it goes to the floor.
HELP!
HELP!
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On my 2k psd Excursion I wondered more than a few times whether I was going to stop or not when pulling either my boat or my bobcat and trailer. I also could not keep Ford rotors on the frt (3 sets in the first 30k). The stopping performance of the upgrade is unbelievable compared to stock. Let me know if you have any questions concerning the rotors.
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Hey Mr. Clutch, how will you selling him new pads or rotors fix his pedal going to the floor???
Any time I had worn pads or worn or warpped rotors I still had a full pedal.
It makes me laugh, the way you can work in your companies plug on every post you make.
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Any time I had worn pads or worn or warpped rotors I still had a full pedal.
It makes me laugh, the way you can work in your companies plug on every post you make.
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It may be the booster check valve. It looks like a plastic fitting pushed into a grommet in the booster with a hose attached.
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I was refering to his inability to stop which is a common problem with these trucks as I can tell you first hand. His problem may be air in the lines or a bad m/c, but I know for a fact a few times I have put my brake pedal on the floor trying to stop my Excursion without plowing someone over. The ford brakes are absolutely horrible.
I was refering to his inability to stop which is a common problem with these trucks as I can tell you first hand. His problem may be air in the lines or a bad m/c, but I know for a fact a few times I have put my brake pedal on the floor trying to stop my Excursion without plowing someone over. The ford brakes are absolutely horrible.
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-May-02 AT 08:45 AM (EST)]Ford brakes are horrible!(Mr Clutch)
HMMMMMMMMMMM!
I ve owned more than my share of trucks over the years!
Never had the problems described above!
maybe its because I do my own repairs or maintenace.
newer trucks (by design are becoming lighter in all areas)
Brakes ,springs ,engines,...etc.
Why fuel mileage! (brought on by gov.)
If your on your brakes alot ,you gotta expect to have these
problems.Its all based on how and where you drive!
My other point is who does the repairs ?
I trust nobody to work on my vehicles! unless I'm standing right next to him.
Hey Ford is selling parts too!
Not just your company!
Sorry Scott! I went off on a tangent!
As suggested start by chking for leaks as you have already !
is there any evidence of leakage near the fire wall ?
Master cylinder bad!
or bad caliper leaking
or brake line
chk around the abs unit also!
Rich
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HMMMMMMMMMMM!
I ve owned more than my share of trucks over the years!
Never had the problems described above!
maybe its because I do my own repairs or maintenace.
newer trucks (by design are becoming lighter in all areas)
Brakes ,springs ,engines,...etc.
Why fuel mileage! (brought on by gov.)
If your on your brakes alot ,you gotta expect to have these
problems.Its all based on how and where you drive!
My other point is who does the repairs ?
I trust nobody to work on my vehicles! unless I'm standing right next to him.
Hey Ford is selling parts too!
Not just your company!
Sorry Scott! I went off on a tangent!
As suggested start by chking for leaks as you have already !
is there any evidence of leakage near the fire wall ?
Master cylinder bad!
or bad caliper leaking
or brake line
chk around the abs unit also!
Rich
Ford Trucks Built Tough!
not with rocks
Watch out "X" Mayor of Truckville
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys! So far I have checked the lines and calipers for leaks or anything out of the ordinary and all checked out. I then checked the master cylinder for any signs of leaks and also checked the level and again all checked fine. I then bled the breaks and noticed no signs of air in the lines. The break pads still look new and the rotors looked fine. After all this, I am still having the same problems! Could this be an ABS issue? or a booster issue? I am running out of things to check.
Thanks for the help!!!
Thanks for the help!!!
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Here's an update! I found where the squealing is coming from. It is where the rod comes from the pedal and goes through the firewall. I can hold the pedal in a certain position and it squeals or push it a little further and I can feel air coming through the hole. Now unless I put it in that certain position I don't here or feel anything. What is this and would it be covered under warranty?
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 30-May-02 AT 09:23 PM (EST)]>Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the pedal goes to the
>floor and it also whistles. The pedal only goes to the floor
>if I have alot of pressure applied and it takes it a second
>to go. But what gets me is the whistling of the pedal before
>it goes to the floor.
>
>HELP!
Sounds like a master cylinder problem to me also.If it has an internal leak and the fluid is going past the rubber cups and then back into the reservoir you aren't necessarily going to see fluid leaking on the outside.
>floor and it also whistles. The pedal only goes to the floor
>if I have alot of pressure applied and it takes it a second
>to go. But what gets me is the whistling of the pedal before
>it goes to the floor.
>
>HELP!
Sounds like a master cylinder problem to me also.If it has an internal leak and the fluid is going past the rubber cups and then back into the reservoir you aren't necessarily going to see fluid leaking on the outside.
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A key word in this scenario may be "Backing up". Those pontoon boats ain't exactly light, and if the trailer has surge brakes instead of electric, that may explain some of the lack of stopping power BACKING DOWN the ramp.
The pedal to the floor isn't right, unless it's continuously acting like the ABS feature is engaged. The pedal will "wobble" it's way down to a certain extent. You may have some issues with your brakes that were amplified by the scenario you listed.
Only my humble opinion as always.
The pedal to the floor isn't right, unless it's continuously acting like the ABS feature is engaged. The pedal will "wobble" it's way down to a certain extent. You may have some issues with your brakes that were amplified by the scenario you listed.
Only my humble opinion as always.
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During your process of bleeding the brakes.
The master cylinder would hold the pedal solid?
Does it still go to the floor sometimes? intermitent
I would lean towards the master cylinder versus the booster
If you start the truck with your foot on the brake pedal do you feel the
the booster kick in or the pedal drop a little,but still solid?
Does your abs light come on when you start the truck? thats a self test that the gem/pcm do to verify its ready or at least not failed totally.
how many miles on this truck?
what is a superlift true speed module?
is this used to calibrate your speedometer for the bigger tires
does it feed info to your pcm /which inturn could fool your abs
unit somehow?
Rich
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The master cylinder would hold the pedal solid?
Does it still go to the floor sometimes? intermitent
I would lean towards the master cylinder versus the booster
If you start the truck with your foot on the brake pedal do you feel the
the booster kick in or the pedal drop a little,but still solid?
Does your abs light come on when you start the truck? thats a self test that the gem/pcm do to verify its ready or at least not failed totally.
how many miles on this truck?
what is a superlift true speed module?
is this used to calibrate your speedometer for the bigger tires
does it feed info to your pcm /which inturn could fool your abs
unit somehow?
Rich
Ford Trucks Built Tough!
not with rocks
Watch out "X" Mayor of Truckville