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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Question 87 B II Will not run

OK, I have a headache! I have an 87 B II 2.9 Fuel injected with 4-WD. Two weeks ago it ran fine, a week and 6 days ago, it didn't. It just turns and turns but will not run. I get plenty of spark but no fuel is getting in to the engine. I can spray starter fluid in the air intake and it will run until the starter fluid is gone. I get fuel up to the pressure regulator but i don't know if it is going any farther( I disconnected the fuel line and by-passes the fuel pump relay.). Does anyone know what I can do to pinpoint the problem and get back on the road? I am so lost here!! Thanks in advanced.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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What is the pressure at the rail? Should be about 40 psig KOEO.
Are the fuel injectors "firing"?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 01:49 AM
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This is a whole new world for me and at the risk of sounding dumb, what do i need to do in order to check the pressure. I see the valve on the rail, but i am kind of afraid to do any more damage by tinkering with somthing i am unsure of. can I just hook up a guage on it?

I apprecaite your patience with me, i would rather sound dumb than make matters worse. Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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You can buy a fuel pressure testing kit (essentially a gauge with a couple pieces of hardware) from just about any parts store. In essence, it just hooks up and you measure the pressure. I would suggest consulting a repair manual (Chiltons or Haynes would be fine for this operation. As you get more involved in DIY work, you may want to find a "professional" edition manual. Many libraries have them) for instructions (There's an online version of Chiltons available at www.autozone.com).
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Ok. I will have to wait until I get paid but i will get a manual and fuel pressure kit. I looked at the autozone site you referred to (thank you) and found the kit. I will post the results as soon as i get them. Thank you very much.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Well. I got a Haynes repair mauual and a fuel pressure testing kit. The fuel pressure pumps up to just a hair over 40 psi.

I checked for spark and that looks good. I pulled a spark plug and noticed that is is dry. So a assume that the fuel is getting into the rail alright but the injectors are on strike and not firing.


I do not knpw the first thing about checking into injectors. Please if anyone can help me I would greatly apprecaite it.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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I would pull the codes to see if the computer has any information. You can test the injects with a test light or noid light(the proper tool).
 
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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You need to take the noid light and plug it into the injector plug-in. Crank the engine. If it doesn't light, you're not getting juice to your injectors. If that's the case, it could be a number of things. Depends on whether its equipped with a cam sensor, crank sensor, or tach sensor. We're not sure which these trucks have. My husband had an '87 ranger, and he had that problem while installing a new engine, and it turned out to be the tach sensor was unplugged. Good luck, sorry I cant help more. Angel
 
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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I apprecaite all the help I can get. I will go out and find me a noid light to test the injectors as soon as I can. In the meantime, is there any way to pull the engine codes from it without a code reader?

I intend to keep my B II for a while if I can so I will get a code reader but it may take me another week or two to get it.

I want to thank everyone that has replied. I appreciate the assistance.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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I dont know if I did it wrong or wht but I dint get anything. I ran a little jumper wire and used a light tester. But I never got any flashes or anything. Am I doing somthing wrong? any suggestions?.. Thanks averyone.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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You need to turn the key on, you dont have to start the engine, just turn the engine to on. Did you do that?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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This may sound stupid, but does your check engine light come on when you turn your key on? It should be on and stay on until it starts/runs. The bulb in the cluster may be burned out - a 194 wedge type bulb if my memory is good.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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I had the key in the RUN position. Turning it to START will only crank unless I have someone spraying starting fluid in the air intake. But i read through another post on this board that also explained the set-up and process for getting the fault codes.
I had the same results; or lack thereof.

I checked my test light and it seems to be working fine. I am going into town on monday and hopefully I can find a NOID kit.

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I can get one? I tried looking on a few web sites but I would like to, if I can, just pick one up somewhere.

Thanks again everyone.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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I expect just about any good parts store will have a oid light.
If you couldn't get codes out, do you even have power to the computer? Computer controls the injectors (and a whole bunch of other stuff). If it has no power, the engine won't run. Check the fusible link and the relay and the rest of the computer's wiring.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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You can get a noid light at any auto parts store. Advance, Auto zone, Pep Boys, etc. would be a good start.
 
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