any body hear about what o'neil is saying that bush preplanned the war against iraq, within days of him taking office? duh! that's not new new's, but i am curious how the spin doctors will turn this one around.

 

Never heard anything about it .Do you have a link to check it out?

 

That's not true!

The democrats in Washington have been saying since the start of the Iraqi war that Bush never had a plan for Iraq! Sen. John Kerry being the most vocal.

 

Regime change in Iraq was a policy left over from the Clinton admin. Bush wasn't the first to think of it but he was the first with enough ***** to carry it out--Jack

 

Did you hear how O'Niell described Bush?

"A blind man in a roomful of deaf people".

Probably explains why O'Niell is the EX Treasury Secretary.

 

WHAT A DIFFERENCE A YEAR MAKES:

Jan. 12, 2003:

O'Neill: 'I'm determined not to say any negative things about the president and the Bush administration'...

Jan. 10, 2004:

O'Neill: Bush's performance at cabinet meetings resembled that of 'a blind man in a room full of deaf people'... --Jack

 

that rumor has been circulating for years. i heard that when he ( bush) first was running.. its all cause saadam had alledgedly looked into some kind of hit squad to kill big daddy bush. Bush , like clinton etc are all liars and bs artists. voting is never the best man for the job anymore its the least of two evils

 

I was waiting for this to break but didn't have a link. This is just sour grapes and it looks like O'neill will have to eat them. More to follow in the main steam media I'm sure.

www.powerlineblog.com/archives/005628/php

 

I couldn't get the link to work.i tried it a couple times

 

Try this instead:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/005628.php

 

. NY Times: Bush Warned bin Laden Would Hijack Planes
"The White House said tonight that President Bush had been warned by American intelligence agencies in early August that Osama bin Laden was seeking to hijack aircraft..."
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/16/politics/16INQU.html


2. CNN: Bush briefed on hijacking threat before 9-11
"President Bush's daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner, senior administration officials said Wednesday" http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/15/bus....11/index.html

3. UK Guardian: Bush knew terrorists would hijack planes
"George Bush received specific warnings in the weeks before 11 September that an attack inside the United States was being planned by Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, US government sources said yesterday…. The memo received by Bush on 6 August contained unconfirmed information passed on by British intelligence in 1998 revealing that al-Qaeda operatives had discussed hijacking a plane to negotiate the release of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, the Muslim cleric imprisoned in America for his part in a plot to blow up the World Trade Centre in 1993." http://www.guardian.co.uk/september1...718312,00.html

4. Sunday Herald: Britain warned Bush to expect 9-11 al-Qaeda hijackings
"Britain gave President Bush a categorical warning to expect multiple airline hijackings by the al-Qaeda network a month before the September 11 attacks which killed nearly 3000 people and triggered the international war against terrorism." http://www.sundayherald.com/24822

5. Village Voice: Officials Warned of Plans to Attack DC, NY with Planes
"The U.S. government had received repeated warnings of impending attacks—and attacks using planes directed at New York and Washington—for several years. The government never told us about what it knew was coming." http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0332/mondo4.php


6. AP: 9/11 report, Rice conflict; Bush got specific data on threats
"...the briefing given to the president a month before the suicide hijackings included recent intelligence that al-Qaida was planning to send operatives to the United States to carry out an attack using high explosives." http://www.sunspot.net/business/nati...ness-headlines

7. MSNBC: White House Briefed on Imminent bin Laden Attack
"One such CIA briefing, in July 2001, was particularly chilling and prophetic. It predicted that Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike 'in the coming weeks,' the congressional investigators found. The intelligence briefing went on to say: 'The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning.'" http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067907/

8. MSN: Condoleezza Rice's False Statement
A: "The overwhelming bulk of the evidence was that this was an attack that was likely to take place overseas."
- White House National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, in a May 16 news briefing.

B: "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
- Title of the CIA's Aug. 6 briefing memo to President Bush . .. . http://slate.msn.com/?id=2066154

9. Newsweek: Day before 9-11, Pentagon Generals Cancelled Flights
"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns."
http://www.msnbc.com/news/629606.asp (link dead)

10. SF Gate: Mayor got 8-hour warning Before 9-11 Attacks – September 12, 2001
For Mayor Willie Brown, the first signs that something was amiss came late Monday when he got a call from what he described as his airport security - - a full eight hours before yesterday's string of terrorist attacks -- advising him that Americans should be cautious about their air travel. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2/MN229389.DTL


11. Florida State: Jeb Bush Declares Martial Law 9-7-01
"Based on the potential massive damage to life and property that may result from an act of terrorism at a Florida port, the necessity to protect life and property from such acts of terrorism..." http://www.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/o...-09-07-01.html

12. CBS News: Ashcroft Avoided Commercial Travel Prior to 9-11
"In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...le303601.shtml

13. UK Independent: Taliban Mole Warning Ignored
"Weeks before the terrorist attacks on 11 September, the United States and the United Nations ignored warnings from a secret Taliban emissary that Osama bin Laden was planning a huge attack on American soil." http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=331115

14. NY Times: "President Mubarek Warned US of Al Qaeda Plot”
"Egyptian intelligence warned American officials about a week before Sept. 11 that Osama bin Laden's network was in the advance stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, President Hosni Mubarak said in an interview on Sunday."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...AF0894DA404482

15. Village Voice: US Ignored France Warnings
"A key point in unraveling why the FBI failed to follow up leads on Al Qaeda terrorism now centers on the Bureau's contemptuously brushing aside warnings from French intelligence a few days before 9-11." http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0222/ridgeway2.php

16. Intl. Herald Tribune: White House Ignored Arab Warnings
"When the hubbub about what the White House did or didn't know before Sept. 11 dies down, Congressional or other investigators should consider the specific warnings that friendly Arab intelligence services sent to Washington in the summer of 2001." http://www.iht.com/articles/58269.html

17. UK News-Telegraph: Israel issued urgent warning of large-scale terror attacks
Israeli intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent."
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$52PMOXQAADW5PQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2001/09/16/wcia16.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/09/16/ixhome

18. NY Post: FBI Warned D.C. It Was A Target
"A Minnesota FBI agent investigating Zacarias Moussaoui testified yesterday that he notified the Secret Service weeks before Sept. 11 that a terror team might hijack a plane and 'hit the nation's capital.'" http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/57848.htm

20. Yahoo News: FBI Warnings Ignored
"An FBI supervisor, sounding a prophetic pre-Sept. 11 alarm, warned FBI headquarters that student pilot Zacarias Moussaoui was so dangerous he might 'take control of a plane and fly it into the World Trade Center,' a congressional investigator said in a report Tuesday."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...s_intelligence

21. Independent: America had 12 warnings of aircraft attack
"American intelligence received many more clues before the 11 September attacks than previously disclosed, that terrorists might hijack planes and turn them into weapons, a joint congressional committee was told yesterday." http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=334633

22. Washington Post: 9/11 Probe Says Agencies Failed to Heed Attack Signs
"U.S. intelligence agencies received many more indications than previously disclosed that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network was planning imminent "spectacular" attacks in the summer of 2001 aimed at inflicting mass casualties." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Sep18.html

23. Yahoo News: Spy Agencies Had Pre-9/11 Threats on U.S. Soil
"U.S. intelligence agencies picked up threats of attacks inside the United States and of using airplanes as weapons during the spring and summer before last year's Sept. 11 attacks, but were more focused on the possibility of an assault overseas, a congressional source said on Tuesday."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ntelligence_dc

24. Vanity Fair: Bin Laden Relatives Secretly Evacuated From NY
"Patrick Tyler of the New York Times is reporting from Washington: 'In the first days after the attacks on Sept. 11, the Saudi Arabian ambasador to Washington, Prince Bandar ibn Sultan, supervised the urgent evacuation of 24 members of Osama bin Laden's extended family from the United States fearing they might be subjected to violence.'"
http://www.guerrillanews.com/cgi-bin...5&o=0&part=all

25. Sydney Morning Herald: Administration Told US agents “Back off bin Ladens”
"US special agents were told to back off the bin Laden family and the Saudi royals soon after George Bush became president, although that has all changed since September 11, it was reported today." http://www.old.smh.com.au/news/0111/.../world100.html

Here is a bunch of stuff along these lines.

Later Larry

 

Wow.you seem to have done your homework on this one.Good job on the research.

 

i had watched a news clip on cnn, and it was aols news clip that iread about it. but if you think about it , yea he(Bush) may have had warnings but if he would of said anything, then no one would of flown, then nothing happened, he would of looked bad. it would of been a hard call to make.and look at the type of evidence they had...and where it comes from....also where it still is coming from.

 

Sounds like Bush didn't no anything about it: eek:

 

Man some of you guys tear me up, let's take a look at Osama and America, I won't even go back super far into the 70's when attacks happened then, I'll just start with the major ones in the 90's.

'93 WTC bombing
Kenya & Tanzania embassy bombings
USS Cole Bombing
etc.

All those were during the Clinton regime, do you think his intelligence was more blinded than Bush's? No, it's the same intelligence. Clinton said he regretted not getting Osama when he had the chance, but ya know what, I can't blame the guy completely.

Clinton didn't do jack to stop terrorism in his era, and do you know why? 2 reasons.
#1 He wanted to be liked by everyone & wanted everyone to say that we had such peace when he was in office.
#2 The American public wouldn't support a move if Clinton started sending troops out into the world to track down terrorists which have not been high profile. Sure they have killed hundreds of our citizens, but not a huge bombing like 9/11 so the American public, as ignorant as they are, just want to pretend nothing happened.

We've been at war for a long time people. 9/11, as horrible as it was, was the door opening for America to do anything about terrorism. I'm not saying Bush let 9/11 happened, I honestly believe he did not.

If you're going to say that, then you may as well say Clinton let all the other terrorist attacks happen, I do not believe he "let" them happen either.

The fact is, they couldn't have done anything to stop it without getting a huge amount of flack from the idiotic American public who have short term memories & love to sweep bad things out there under the rug and pretend they don't exist.

If 9/11 was prevented, do you realize what this country would be like? It would have been on the news for a couple weeks, "BIG TERRORIST PLANE PLOT HALTED!" and then it would have gone away and none of us would be talking about this now, and everyone would be living in their cozy little safe world believing nothing can hurt them.

That is sad. 9/11, while tragic, was a wakeup call to many saying that they aren't in a happy little paradise anymore, that everyone doesn't want peace, and that the government cannot protect us from all enemies foreign and domestic. I love the US gov, but they are not God.

Imagine WWII if Pearl Harbor had not have happened... the world would be far different.

People blame the president now saying he knew and didn't do anything, but if he had done something and 9/11 never happened, all of you same people would be bashing him for being overbearing in his measures to protect this country.