Is it REALLY Hunting???
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From: northern ca
Originally posted by rikfish
That's because they are all ARMED!!!
I do in fact agree with you though...I have hunted most of my life, and those are some of the most memorable times I have. Many of those I hunted with are gone now, and I cherish the times we got to spend together.
As for the question of "Is it really hunting?", I ask what do you want us to do if not use firearms? Want us to chase them down, wrestle them to the ground, then bite their throat until they are dead? I agree that would be sporting, but rather cruel........ I'd starve since I can't run that fast!
That's because they are all ARMED!!!
I do in fact agree with you though...I have hunted most of my life, and those are some of the most memorable times I have. Many of those I hunted with are gone now, and I cherish the times we got to spend together.
As for the question of "Is it really hunting?", I ask what do you want us to do if not use firearms? Want us to chase them down, wrestle them to the ground, then bite their throat until they are dead? I agree that would be sporting, but rather cruel........ I'd starve since I can't run that fast!
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OK.......So some use "hunting" or whatever you want to call it as a "social type family gathering.
"Many hunters do it because it is a tradition and probably the only time all year when they can get together with their dads, cousins, uncles, etc.. without worrying about work or the rest of the world in general. "
Why is that? There are 365 days in a year and some families can only get together to hunt? I think thats kind of odd......And to not argue only when on a "Hunting" trip? That sounds even more strange to me....
I am not trying to be rude or obnoxious I just find some of this interesting.
Why is it that the family dynamic can only function well when on a "hunting" trip....
Andy..If you have ALOT of people shooting backat you, its a war.....
"Many hunters do it because it is a tradition and probably the only time all year when they can get together with their dads, cousins, uncles, etc.. without worrying about work or the rest of the world in general. "
Why is that? There are 365 days in a year and some families can only get together to hunt? I think thats kind of odd......And to not argue only when on a "Hunting" trip? That sounds even more strange to me....
I am not trying to be rude or obnoxious I just find some of this interesting.
Why is it that the family dynamic can only function well when on a "hunting" trip....
Andy..If you have ALOT of people shooting backat you, its a war.....
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From: Lenexa, KS
Hunting, like most things, has evolved into an activity that wouldn't even be recognized by the early "men" that hunted for survival. When I see someone carrying a $500-$1,000 rifle complete with long range optics mounted on top, the sport starts to resemble "sniping". It's target practice. Also, most people are relating to deer hunting. There is an abundance of deer. We have hunted, poached, and captured most of the big game to the point that in ten years or less, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, and many others will only exist in zoos.
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Our locations and schedules don't allow us a lot of time together as a family, but this is the one time of year we all take the same week off. Also, the more argumentative members of the family don't hunt, so we look forward to the peace, quiet, and gunshots.
Also, being outdoors is a lot more calming than being cooped up inside in the winter. Kind of breaks the cabin fever syndrome.
Also, being outdoors is a lot more calming than being cooped up inside in the winter. Kind of breaks the cabin fever syndrome.
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We are changing tradition. This is not good. Our bodies are designed to be hunters. Ten thousand years ago, before the advent of agriculture, humans were hunter-gatherers. When prehistoric man got up early in the morning, and had nothing to eat, his body signaled, "We are in a famine! Get out there and start hunting!" His serotonin level, and hence his mood, was relatively unaffected. Nature designed his body to protect the species. Consequently, he could go without food all day, and still have the strength, speed, and stamina to carry out the hunt. His ability to think was not at its peak, but he could still function without feeling depressed and lethargic. Today's male still carries the ability to miss breakfast and lunch, yet go like crazy all day as long as he stays task-focused. At times like these, he is running on adrenaline and testosterone. At night, he comes home to immediately clean out the refrigerator and recharge his batteries on the couch. His cognitive illusion is that he is thinking efficiently despite his poor eating habits.
Eat more meat, turn in poachers
Eat more meat, turn in poachers
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hunting is a great way to get out and have fun with your buddies, for me its not about harvesting an animal, but the great times and fellowship i share with the group i go with. i do eat and make use of my harvest and if it is a "trophy" well all the better. its a great, safe and clean way to enjoy the outdoors and to enjoy the time you spend with friends and family. and to hunt means to puruse, track, drive or chase in means for food or sport. look it up in the dictionary. never heard of hunting where something else is shooting back at you. now if you want a catch and release type of hunting.....pick up your camera and do the same thing as if you were stand/still hunting but with a camera!! it is so exciting and fun, i have pictures of beautiful animals that i have come so close to. hunting can be catch and release just like fishing. its still a challange and you have the photo for life. i do it all year round, even bring it to the field with me. dont knock hunting just because you dont understand it. and for a lot of people its a way of life.
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From: Laveen
Here it is, if you eat meat you are participating in the killing of that animal, thats just the way it is. If you buy a steak at the store someone had to kill it and they are only doing it because you are buying it. Buy the way I like my steak scared, get the fire as hot as possible char it ever so slightly on the outside and still cold in the middle, and I think steak tartar is great. I also eat a lot of seafood, with lots of garlic, and sushi, BUT NO LIVER urk.
I used to hunt a lot when I lived in Illlinois and N Carolina, but hunting and fishing is too much trouble here in Arizona. In Illinios during rabbit and squirrel season we used to fill the freezers. A buddy of mine wouldn't eat squirrel he said they were just tree rats. A couple of times we traded rabbits for venison.
I have also raised my own sheep and goats to eat but the only ones I have now are pets, I also have pet deer.
I used to hunt a lot when I lived in Illlinois and N Carolina, but hunting and fishing is too much trouble here in Arizona. In Illinios during rabbit and squirrel season we used to fill the freezers. A buddy of mine wouldn't eat squirrel he said they were just tree rats. A couple of times we traded rabbits for venison.
I have also raised my own sheep and goats to eat but the only ones I have now are pets, I also have pet deer.
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3broncocrazy you counldn't be more right.
You must have a mouse i nyour pocket Ihave never hunted these animals.
Has anyone ever stop to find the facts about hunters. I will share a couple, First our entire national park system was created by a hunter. He is also where we get the term teddy bear.Teddy Rosevelt.
Second hunters pay more for the enviroment than any other group. Like your state forests and parks. We also pay for hunter education classes.
Third wildlife is doing much better than it has ever more speices of animals have been revived by hunters than elimanated.
You can look at hunting as population control. If we don't control it Mother nature will. Like animals starving. Mad cow disease. Rabies and even Aids it's all Mother natures population control.
Poaching is not hunting.
Ok thats it I'm done now.
We have hunted, poached, and captured most of the big game to the point that in ten years or less, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, and many others will only exist in zoos.
Has anyone ever stop to find the facts about hunters. I will share a couple, First our entire national park system was created by a hunter. He is also where we get the term teddy bear.Teddy Rosevelt.
Second hunters pay more for the enviroment than any other group. Like your state forests and parks. We also pay for hunter education classes.
Third wildlife is doing much better than it has ever more speices of animals have been revived by hunters than elimanated.
You can look at hunting as population control. If we don't control it Mother nature will. Like animals starving. Mad cow disease. Rabies and even Aids it's all Mother natures population control.
Poaching is not hunting.
Ok thats it I'm done now.
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I guess that I am one of the people who makes good use of his gun rack. There are certain animals such as coyotes, badgers praire dogs, coons, rattlesnakes, porcupines, beaver and muskrat (varmints) that I will shoot whenever seen. No matter how many I get there will be too many. I also support hunting with dogs. It is very effective coyote control in these parts and is more challenging than people think. Anyway you people for the most part dont need to worry about these animals damaging your property. I usually cut the best meat off of the deer I shoot and feed the rest to the cats and dogs. They need to eat too. I think that landowners in my area should be able to shoot 5 deer a year for free.
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sport hunting
i hunt for the sport of hunting.i never shoot anything i dont intend to eat.deer and moose only.the meat is very lean, and very tasty.I site my rifle in by fireing 3 shots at the start of the season and if i dont encounter any game i never fire my rifle.i dont take long distance shots for fear of wounding an animal.i dont litter in the woods,i leave it as i found it.i love to walk through the woods just to enjoy nature. i dont hunt for trophy game because they dont taste as good.my theory is if you dont eat it you dont need it.harvesting game ensures a healthy heard.over population is not good for man or animal.i obey all rules and regulations.i always hunt deep in the woods,far from dwellings.
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From: Iowa
most people i know hunt for the meet, as for myself i hunt for the meet and the compatition, and around my area there are some many deer there urging people to hunt them, i agree the animals are beautiful in the wilderness, but there does get to be way to many of them, as for the people that hunt deer for there rack, theres nothing wrong with that, theres always going to be more and more deer to come, same as other wildlife, so i see in no harm shooting them, for whatever reason for you doing so, but however for the people that shoot animals and leave them lay, i dont like that a bit and there is no reason for it.
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If you think that people hunt for low cost meat, you are mistaken. Hunting (or rather conservation) is a very expensive hobby. Just think about it. Hunters pay an 11% tax on firearms, ammunition, and licensces to support the sport. I consider it a sport because it is no longer necessary for survival.
As far as hunting is concerned, I hunt to thin out the doe herds that eat our alfalfa. I make such a small impact that I think I can hear the deer laughing at me. I despise trophy hunting, and I eat every bit of the animal that I kill.
I don't enjoy the killing, but I know what I need to do to take care of these deer. Thats the primary reason I rifle hunt, its much easier to make a clean humane kill with a rifle than it is with a bow and arrow.
I am also a Montana Hunter Safety Instructor, I do enjoy seeing all those kids with the passion of hunting in their eyes. Our classes are seeing about 35% females sign up, I think that even if they don't hunt, its good that they know why some people do choose to hunt.
I don't know if I am making an impact here, but I would say that I am not going to try to change your treehugger point of view. I will defend my view for as long as I am able.
If you want to hear a bit more feel free to email me.
~Matt
As far as hunting is concerned, I hunt to thin out the doe herds that eat our alfalfa. I make such a small impact that I think I can hear the deer laughing at me. I despise trophy hunting, and I eat every bit of the animal that I kill.
I don't enjoy the killing, but I know what I need to do to take care of these deer. Thats the primary reason I rifle hunt, its much easier to make a clean humane kill with a rifle than it is with a bow and arrow.
I am also a Montana Hunter Safety Instructor, I do enjoy seeing all those kids with the passion of hunting in their eyes. Our classes are seeing about 35% females sign up, I think that even if they don't hunt, its good that they know why some people do choose to hunt.
I don't know if I am making an impact here, but I would say that I am not going to try to change your treehugger point of view. I will defend my view for as long as I am able.
If you want to hear a bit more feel free to email me.
~Matt
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From: Lenexa, KS
Originally posted by mattsbox99
If you think that people hunt for low cost meat, you are mistaken. Hunting (or rather conservation) is a very expensive hobby. Just think about it. Hunters pay an 11% tax on firearms, ammunition, and licenses to support the sport. I consider it a sport because it is no longer necessary for survival.
As far as hunting is concerned, I hunt to thin out the doe herds that eat our alfalfa. I make such a small impact that I think I can hear the deer laughing at me. I despise trophy hunting, and I eat every bit of the animal that I kill.
I don't enjoy the killing, but I know what I need to do to take care of these deer. Thats the primary reason I rifle hunt, its much easier to make a clean humane kill with a rifle than it is with a bow and arrow.
I am also a Montana Hunter Safety Instructor, I do enjoy seeing all those kids with the passion of hunting in their eyes. Our classes are seeing about 35% females sign up, I think that even if they don't hunt, its good that they know why some people do choose to hunt.
I don't know if I am making an impact here, but I would say that I am not going to try to change your tree hugger point of view. I will defend my view for as long as I am able.
If you want to hear a bit more feel free to email me.
~Matt
If you think that people hunt for low cost meat, you are mistaken. Hunting (or rather conservation) is a very expensive hobby. Just think about it. Hunters pay an 11% tax on firearms, ammunition, and licenses to support the sport. I consider it a sport because it is no longer necessary for survival.
As far as hunting is concerned, I hunt to thin out the doe herds that eat our alfalfa. I make such a small impact that I think I can hear the deer laughing at me. I despise trophy hunting, and I eat every bit of the animal that I kill.
I don't enjoy the killing, but I know what I need to do to take care of these deer. Thats the primary reason I rifle hunt, its much easier to make a clean humane kill with a rifle than it is with a bow and arrow.
I am also a Montana Hunter Safety Instructor, I do enjoy seeing all those kids with the passion of hunting in their eyes. Our classes are seeing about 35% females sign up, I think that even if they don't hunt, its good that they know why some people do choose to hunt.
I don't know if I am making an impact here, but I would say that I am not going to try to change your tree hugger point of view. I will defend my view for as long as I am able.
If you want to hear a bit more feel free to email me.
~Matt