New to forum - 2003 6L PSD LX-limited slip diff-Oct flash
Recently experienced roadside failure (engine quit running at hwy speed). After parking on shoulder engine would restart and run fine for a time, then repeat this scenario. Managed to run from Salinas to Santa Rosa, CA (200 m). Truck had 1100 miles on it at the time. Dealer found leaking injector. This had put enough fuel into the crankcase to induce a 'vibration' upon acceleration (the crank was litterally 'wallowing' in the oil-fuel mix!) This also created a very strong diesel smell in the climete controll system. After the injector was replaced, all seems well except a disturbing sound at precisely 1250 rpm in high gear (automatic trans)...sounds like someone under hood rattling a coffee can full of rocks...only in high at 1250rpm. Is this just a 'lug'? If I increase 'foot feed' at throttle the trans will downshift and sound abates. Is there a chance of damage to the engine from over-fill in the case? The dealer says they've seen this before and assures me there is no further need to worry----diesel fuel possessing lubricity. I'm not experiencing seal problems (oddly enough) and all seems well except for this wierd sound (and really terrible fuel economy-12.5mpg at best). Any comments would be gratefuuly accepted TIA, Roy

 

Roy, I posted a response to your original post located at the 1997 - 2003 F-150 forum on this site. Basically, your dealer is full of it.

 

Roy, I feel your pain; have 03 6.0 4x4 x that has been in and out with this problem; Finally got 8 new injectors. Now oil has dropped off my dip stick 1500 miles after last change. Look at other threads you are not alone. Begin documenting every visit,phone call e-mail letter.DON'T LEAVE YOUR PAPERWORK IN YOUR GLOVE BOX. FoMoCo should step up and make good or begin paying all of us for Research&Development
Good Luck

 

I wouldnt accept anything less than a new engine at this point.

 

A new engine is what I have been lobbying for with little success for the past 4 months. Got a e-mail today from Ford telling me they are sympathetic to my problems and are looking into my request.....yadah yadah. Surely some Hot Shot lawyer bought one of these things and a class action suite can be brought. Loss of time in shop; loss of value on trade-in(my dealer said there was no way they would take a 03 6.0 as trade) and how much has been removed from the life span after diesel saturation? "youv'e got 100000 mile warrenty..with a 100 dollar deductable. We got a product that was rushed to productin without enough development in the final stages. We shouldn't have to just shut up and bend over...
OK I'm off my soap box, I think its time to go get a drink

 

Make sure you get a new Turbo also as the turbo ususally the 1st to go when you get fuel in the oil. Remember that the oil circulates thru the turbo and your turbo spins alot faster then your motor.

- Dae

 

http://www.blueovalnews.com/2003/pow..._injectors.htm

 

Did your dealer replace the turbo? Maybe your main bearings can survive being awash in diesel fuel for a short period of time, maybe. But the turbo's bearings sure as hell can't.

 

can you say lemon law?

 

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What seems to epedemic with these fixes is to do as little and try to shut you up and slide you out the door. When I ask about the turbo I was assured that it was designed to tolerate a little ( 4-5 Quarts! I'd hate to see alot!!) diesel in the oil. Bearing surfaces through-out the motor/seals etc I can't believe this is good for it. Taking comfort in a warranty is little consolation when I'm planning a 3000 mile trip pulling my car trailer and hauling the family . That warranty won't offer much comfort broke down and Ford saying we'll tow you in, but can't give you anything but a Focus to continue your trip in. I realize there are outstanding people in Ford Dealerships that are catching a huge amount of crap from upset owners, unfortunately it only takes a few visits with a uninformed uncaring Service Writer (As noted in a post elsewhere) to light us up. I'm irritated because I got woke up at 2:45 by a buddy who was trying to limp home in his 03 6.0 F-250 and it died about 85 miles from me. I got in my 01 7.3 with 235000 miles got his family and trailer and they sleep here right now. Hes broke down and still 850 miles from home.
My X sits in the shop, We're taking the goose neck to get his truck with the 7.3. he'll use it to get home. Glad I've got my old 66 F-100. I'm running out of vehicles!!

 

4 to 5 quarts?!!! That must have been figured out by the same engineers and design team that put this thing together to begin with right? Which is not saying much for them. Not to say that they didnt come up with a great concept but they really screwed use by rushing this motor to market and not putting more time into R&D. I have a late April 03 build date which means I could or could not have those badly designed injectors. More than likely I do have c94s and even if I didnt I feel this is an issue that will affect all of us 03-04 owners in the value of our trucks in the long run anyways. And on this recall that they have issued it is in my opinion their way to get us to legally agree to have them remove pilot injection from our 6.0s. Fords quick fix for bad injectors? Or at least a way to get them to last through our warranty period then its our problem not theirs. Ford needs to recall all c94 injectors!!!!!

 

Ya I agree, But that means the trucks wern't legal to sell with the pilot injection, and if it's true about the 04's with working pilot injection then ford will ether fix my 03 so it has it or replace it with a 04 i will even settle for the new updated oil rails installed in my engine, We defently will see come monday, that is the day ford will have a mad man on there hands.

 

Nock on wood i have the 94's and not problem yet

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