Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

Won't start

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 2, 2004 | 06:52 PM
  #1  
Ice 9's Avatar
Ice 9
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
From: taos
Won't start

I swapped a 79 mid sized car 302 in place of the tired 351 m in my 78 f 150 4x4. It wont start and back fires through the carb. I am thinking maybe the 351 truck ignition module is not compatible with the 302 car distributor or maybe the 15426378 counter clockwise firing order from my Chilton manual is wrong for this motor. Before I start hunting for ignition or cam timing problems I thought I'd ask for help on this forum and that there might be something simple I'm missing.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2004 | 09:14 PM
  #2  
gcfisher75's Avatar
gcfisher75
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
From: Grove City USA
sounds like it could be 180 degrees out of time, try spinning the distributor around and seeing if that helps. Did the motor run b4 taking it out of the car? If so was the dist. messed with?
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2004 | 10:48 PM
  #3  
biz4two's Avatar
biz4two
Lead Driver
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,844
Likes: 6
From: Albuquerque
Club FTE Gold Member
I agree with gcfisher75. Sounds like it is out 180 degrees.

Good luck with it.

 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 02:30 AM
  #4  
fordeverpower's Avatar
fordeverpower
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,934
Likes: 0
From: iowa
the firing order sounds good. Its definately sounds like a timing problem.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:39 AM
  #5  
Ice 9's Avatar
Ice 9
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
From: taos
Thanks guys,
It is a junkyard motor ( when will I learn) they said it ran when they parked it and the distributor did not look like it had been disturbed so I thought it must be something I've done . I'll set the dist. on #1 TDC and see what hahappens.
 
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:20 AM
  #6  
kermit's Avatar
kermit
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 913
Likes: 2
From: Pensacola, FL
firing order is definitely right, i have those numbers glued to my memory from my 77 which had a 302, but i wonder if the distributor didnt look moved, maybe the timing chain is stretched and has jumped a tooth? just a thought.
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:28 PM
  #7  
woodstockaz's Avatar
woodstockaz
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
If you guys figure this out let me know. I have the same problem right now, the backfire through the carburator is actually just gas, no fire in mine. The distributor was messed with, but is is at the number one with tdc. ???????spark is good on all plugs.
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 10:26 PM
  #8  
Ice 9's Avatar
Ice 9
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
From: taos
As it turns out the distributor had been out of my motor and when it was put back in it was put back in 180 degrees out of phase so yes it was firing on the #1 cylinder but on the exhaust stroke. Set yours up to fire on the intake stroke # 1 tdc ( both valves closed and it should solve your problem.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 02:03 AM
  #9  
Matts72's Avatar
Matts72
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,323
Likes: 2
From: Montana Territory
The 351M igntion module has the same part number as the 302 igntion module. So they are compatible.

You might want to have it tested anyway.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:59 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE