6.8l power
New User
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
The front 12 ft of floor space is living quarters. It has a queen bed over the tongue, and a dinnete and a couch that make into beds. It sleeps 6. The rear has a 15ft cargo area that can haul 4 full size dirtbikes easily. That is also where I keep my generator.
The registration and sticker on the side of the trailer both say 7000lbs. I am not sure if that is before the living quarter conversion in the front or not. The conversion cannot weigh too terribly much if it is not included in that. The trailer does punch a pretty big hole in the wind. That is what robs power. This truck pulls it well. Everyone is worried about going fast when towing......what they need to worry about is stopping once you have the weight moving. Diesel or gas.......we all have the same brakes and that much weight never never stops quick......be careful.
Here are some pics of the inside for those of you that are curious.
This is the view from the bed over the tongue:
The registration and sticker on the side of the trailer both say 7000lbs. I am not sure if that is before the living quarter conversion in the front or not. The conversion cannot weigh too terribly much if it is not included in that. The trailer does punch a pretty big hole in the wind. That is what robs power. This truck pulls it well. Everyone is worried about going fast when towing......what they need to worry about is stopping once you have the weight moving. Diesel or gas.......we all have the same brakes and that much weight never never stops quick......be careful.
Here are some pics of the inside for those of you that are curious.
This is the view from the bed over the tongue:
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 851
Likes: 5
From: On top of a big hill...
MX-your that is one awesome trailer! I like the way you have the work bench area set up.
I'm with you on the V10 power issue. Keep in mind folks, he's pulling that 5er with one of the '99 V10s, which is rated for less HP/torque than the newer versions. I pull a 4000 to 7000lb load several times a year on highway trips and my 6.8L will move it alot faster than I care to go. It will accelerate up every highway grade I've been on and hold OD without a problem on level road.
I keep it between 60 & 65 mph when I pulling with it, and as far as I'm concerned noone has any business travelling over 70mph while towing with any pickup (1/2, 3/4 or 1 tons). Especially when the trailer weighs as much as or more than your truck.
I'm with you on the V10 power issue. Keep in mind folks, he's pulling that 5er with one of the '99 V10s, which is rated for less HP/torque than the newer versions. I pull a 4000 to 7000lb load several times a year on highway trips and my 6.8L will move it alot faster than I care to go. It will accelerate up every highway grade I've been on and hold OD without a problem on level road.
I keep it between 60 & 65 mph when I pulling with it, and as far as I'm concerned noone has any business travelling over 70mph while towing with any pickup (1/2, 3/4 or 1 tons). Especially when the trailer weighs as much as or more than your truck.
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,285
Likes: 15
From: Nutter Fort, WV
That was a kinda funny statement,
I keep it between 60 & 65 mph when I pulling with it, and as far as I'm concerned noone has any business travelling over 70mph while towing with any pickup (1/2, 3/4 or 1 tons). Especially when the trailer weighs as much as or more than your truck.
If you go look at a semi tooling down the road with the trailer and load weighing about 4.3 times as much as the tractor does.
Gross weight 80,000#
Road tractor 15,000#
Load and trailer 65,000#
To get that kind of ratio with my F250 4x4 I would have to gross 34,666 lbs.
I keep it between 60 & 65 mph when I pulling with it, and as far as I'm concerned noone has any business travelling over 70mph while towing with any pickup (1/2, 3/4 or 1 tons). Especially when the trailer weighs as much as or more than your truck.
If you go look at a semi tooling down the road with the trailer and load weighing about 4.3 times as much as the tractor does.
Gross weight 80,000#
Road tractor 15,000#
Load and trailer 65,000#
To get that kind of ratio with my F250 4x4 I would have to gross 34,666 lbs.
Junior User
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Are the brakes actually behind you, at that ratio?
I don't want to debate the issue of tire surface area versus swept brake area.
What I am attempting to add to this post is that any vehicle is designed to tow(or be pushed) to a limit.
Brake surface area, contact area and force of adhesion all are factors in this equation.
I don't want to debate the issue of tire surface area versus swept brake area.
What I am attempting to add to this post is that any vehicle is designed to tow(or be pushed) to a limit.
Brake surface area, contact area and force of adhesion all are factors in this equation.
Last edited by Smokin_Superduty; Jan 1, 2004 at 03:11 AM.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 767
Likes: 132
From: Lynden, WA
Originally posted by CJack
Sparky, the Turbo Diesel has more temperature issues than a Whipple supercharged V10 would have.
Besides, premium fuel isnt so much more expensive than diesel.
Sparky, the Turbo Diesel has more temperature issues than a Whipple supercharged V10 would have.
Besides, premium fuel isnt so much more expensive than diesel.
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,285
Likes: 15
From: Nutter Fort, WV
Semi
1 steer axle no brakes
2 drivers axles brakes and power to the ground
2 trailer axles brakes
Truck with tandem trailer
1 steer axle brakes and may have power in 4 wheel drive
1 driver axle brakes and power
2 trailer axles brakes
The whole thing is basicly up to the driver to drive accordingly in both rigs.
The more the GVW goes up the farther you have to be aware of your surroundings. Instead of what is 100 feet in front of you you have to look 3000 feet in front of you. Same for what is behind you and beside you.
Some people in cars scare the crap outta me cause they are doing everything you can think of.....except driving/ paying attention to where they are going.
1 steer axle no brakes
2 drivers axles brakes and power to the ground
2 trailer axles brakes
Truck with tandem trailer
1 steer axle brakes and may have power in 4 wheel drive
1 driver axle brakes and power
2 trailer axles brakes
The whole thing is basicly up to the driver to drive accordingly in both rigs.
The more the GVW goes up the farther you have to be aware of your surroundings. Instead of what is 100 feet in front of you you have to look 3000 feet in front of you. Same for what is behind you and beside you.
Some people in cars scare the crap outta me cause they are doing everything you can think of.....except driving/ paying attention to where they are going.
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
I have a 99 V10 Crew Cab with 3.73 axle. It pulls my 36-foot, 10,000lb 5th-wheel just fine. No drag race winner, but it gets the job done.
I have been up some pretty steep hills with it. I was down to 2nd and 1st gear at times. Yes a diesel will definitely out pull it.
But I am only pulling about 5-10% of the time. And I only put 6-8,000 miles a year total on it. So most of my driving is around town or to work. The gas engine is more pleasant to drive in these situations.
So the V-10 is just right for me. If I pulled more or put more miles on it each year then the diesel might be justified.
My $0.02
I have been up some pretty steep hills with it. I was down to 2nd and 1st gear at times. Yes a diesel will definitely out pull it.
But I am only pulling about 5-10% of the time. And I only put 6-8,000 miles a year total on it. So most of my driving is around town or to work. The gas engine is more pleasant to drive in these situations.
So the V-10 is just right for me. If I pulled more or put more miles on it each year then the diesel might be justified.
My $0.02
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 851
Likes: 5
From: On top of a big hill...
Originally posted by Dave Sponaugle
If you go look at a semi tooling down the road with the trailer and load weighing about 4.3 times as much as the tractor does.
Gross weight 80,000#
Road tractor 15,000#
Load and trailer 65,000#
To get that kind of ratio with my F250 4x4 I would have to gross 34,666 lbs.
If you go look at a semi tooling down the road with the trailer and load weighing about 4.3 times as much as the tractor does.
Gross weight 80,000#
Road tractor 15,000#
Load and trailer 65,000#
To get that kind of ratio with my F250 4x4 I would have to gross 34,666 lbs.
I'm not gonna try it, but be my guest if you really believe the logic that all vehicles with rubber tires are created equal when it comes to towing.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,253
Likes: 0
From: Del Rio, Texas USA
I pull two trailers totalling 40 ft... and 10,000lbs.. my V10 with 36" tires and 4.56s does Outstaning in my View... sure there are plenty of long steep hills that get me down to 45mph... but im still passing everyone else............except the Ford Diesels... but i wouldnt own a diesel to save life(had the 7.3L for a time)... Man this V10 tows my trailers a hell of alot better than my 79 F250, 351W pulled a 3k lb 20ft trailer... Im plenty satisfied.. getting past by other Fords never hurts my feelings! There is nothing you can do to keep up with the torque of a diesel, specially not that new 6.0... But if your like me, you passed over the diesel for other reasons.. now live with your choice.
JJ
JJ
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1974ford4x4
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
3
Aug 15, 2008 03:51 PM
