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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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John Deere 140

I'm looking at a John Deere 140 Garden Tractor that a friend's uncle has.

I do know, that it either has a 12 or 14hp Kohler Single cylinder gasoline engine. I know it's sat for a while, I just don't know how long. I know they were made from 1968-1974. I don't know the serial number either.

The man is asking $400. I think that's high, and I'd give $200 at most for a non-runner. I want this tractor to be my second semester FFA SAE project, and I can't blow all my parts and resto money on the tractor itself.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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200 should be the going price if it isnt even startable, but kohler is still in business and hasnt changed hands so all the parts are available for it and they are great motors

Tell him 200 or you'll find something else, is it hydro ?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Yes, all 140's are hydros, and it has 1 spool of hydraulics standard and available with 3 spools, but I don't know how many it has.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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I'd agree that Kohler engines are great. I've had a lot of experience with them, and they are third only to #1. Kawasaki and #2. Honda, in my opinion. Of course, we are talking about small gas engines here.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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The model number denotes what HP rating it is. 110, was 10hp, 120, was 12hp, 140 was, 14hp.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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I really wish they had Briggs and Strattons in there, because they are the easiest engines to work on and are pretty reliable, and when something does go wrong, parts are cheap. They're just a little louder than Hondas and Kawasakis.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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Briggs anmd Scrapiron is a good cheap reliable motor, I have seen some hard starters tho, I like that they added a primer on the newer ones, nothing better for starting than raw gas, I always loved tecumseh for primers.......and tecumseh are also cheap reliable small engines

If briggs closes their plant in Milwaukee to build them in china I'll never buy another

The 6 hp honda look-a-like on my generac pressure washer is a straight POS, i got it for free for the very reason if it dont start on the first 5 pulls just walk away
 
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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In my experiences the same parts that cost $2-$5 on a briggs cost $10~$15 on a Tecumseh. I have worked on both, and used both I'd take a nun running B&S over a running tecumseh.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Yeah, I got rid of everything Tecumseh I had. I was only able to sell 2 pushmowers that ran that had Tecumsehs on em, all the others (Tecumsehs), were so picky, I couldn't get them to run right at all. I can get more for one mower with a Briggs than I can 2 with Tecumsehs. All of the other mowers I've had have had Briggs and they all ran like tops, except the old ones, their governors seem to lose it after about 30 years.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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If it is in non running condition, that is a little high in my opinion. When I worked at a John Deere dealer for a college internship 3 years ago, they had a 140 that i think they sold for around $250. Ever since then i've wished that i would have bought it. I will agree with you, $200 is probably all i'd give for a non runner too. That is if the rest of the tractor is in good shape and everything is there. Good luck
 
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Thanks, I got the man's number a few minutes ago. I'm gonna call tomorrow afternoon and ask the condition of the tractor and whats on it as far as mower deck or whatever attachment is on it. Then on Friday, I'm gonna ride out there and check it out if I like what I hear on the phone. If that doesn't work out, I'm gonna call all the local JD dealers and ask what they have on their back lots as far as 110's, 112's, 120's, and 140's, as well as newer 318's, and 400's. I doubt they'll have any 300 or 400 series lying around, but I have seen old 100 series (garden tractors) on dealers lots.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 01:26 AM
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You'd be surprised what you might find. Some places have what they call and "owe" lot, it's where they keep the mowers that people still owe them money for repairs on. If I remember right, after so long it become property of the dealer, and they often sell them dirt cheap just to get them out of the way.
 
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I wouldn't pay anywhere near that much for a nonrunning mower, even if it is JD. By the time you get the engine running good chance you'll find the hydro is shot - main reason they get parked in the first place.

I paid $200 for my 14hp Wheelhorse, changed the oil and spark plug and have run it for two years on the same battery. Cast iron axle, steel frame and grease zerts everywhere. Only problem is its a three speed gear drive, lasts longer that way but limits your choice of speeds.

I've had nothing but good luck with Tecumsehs, only problem is I have to take the carb out on my tiller every spring and clean it up, both mowers and the log splitter have a couple years on them with only fresh oil and spark plus every year. The tiller is nearly thirty years old so I have to give it some allowance for being a little stubborn.

Now is a very good time to be pricing used mowers. Lot of small engine repair shops are getting pretty lean with the winter slow down.
 

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I bought it. I gave $300 for it. Man is a John Deere Dealer Mechanic. He told me it has an axle seal leak on the left rear. It has a busted taillight on the right side, and the hood is cracked, other wise, it is complete. He said he'd get me the service manual for it when he finds it, and he could find a mower deck for it if I want. It is a 1970 John Deere 140 H1 with a 14hp Kohler K-321 gasoline engine.
 
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