front suspension??????
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front suspension??????
hey everyone, after reading the post on alternative front axles, i saw that the 75-79 cordoba, 73-74 pylmouth belvedere, gtx, road runner, satellite, fury. the 73-78 dodge charger and superbee. these are all supposed to be donors, but do all of these bolt right in with the gibbsons crossmember or is it just the cordoba setup?? any help would be awesome!!!!!
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Yes, they are universal and all work with the same Gibbon's x-member. You will find minor variations in brakes and torsion bar among the models and years. Nothing serious though to my understanding. Where in northern MN are you?
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Matt
You live on the Southern tip of God's country. (Except for right now prolly.
I would buy one with price and condition in mind. If you are running anything but a big block w/ auto, any donor will do. To tell you the truth, any will probably do even with a big block, but that would be the only time I might look for a donor that came with a bigger Chrysler engine. Torsion bars are adjustable so a minor difference in spring rate is of little consequence. Most of the rebuild parts are very reasonably priced. Just look for one with good control arms, spindles, steering box, torsion bars. The dealer type parts you don't want to have to buy if it can be avoided.
You live on the Southern tip of God's country. (Except for right now prolly.
I would buy one with price and condition in mind. If you are running anything but a big block w/ auto, any donor will do. To tell you the truth, any will probably do even with a big block, but that would be the only time I might look for a donor that came with a bigger Chrysler engine. Torsion bars are adjustable so a minor difference in spring rate is of little consequence. Most of the rebuild parts are very reasonably priced. Just look for one with good control arms, spindles, steering box, torsion bars. The dealer type parts you don't want to have to buy if it can be avoided.
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thanks, but i dont know if i have much of a choice now! i called all the junkyards around me and only one said that he might have an old cordoba but he doesnt know the year and it has probabally been sitting on the ground for about 10 years now!do you know about how much is the right price to pay for these?
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Matt,
Prices vary. Here in Eastern Ontario, I was looking at $500. for the required parts from two different wrecking yards. (Mopars were never popular around this area)
In Indiana, apparently they can be had for about $150.
You might want to scout out some later model hot rodders and find out who's into Mopars. They might be able to put you in touch with a wrecker or garage that has a few mopars kicking around.
Last resorts - try your local auto trader magazine or penny saver type newspaper. Or check out the back lot of some of your local small time repair garages. Some guys tend to specialize in Mopars and they will collect vehicles that couldn't be fixed for what the owner was willing to spend.....
Later,
Prices vary. Here in Eastern Ontario, I was looking at $500. for the required parts from two different wrecking yards. (Mopars were never popular around this area)
In Indiana, apparently they can be had for about $150.
You might want to scout out some later model hot rodders and find out who's into Mopars. They might be able to put you in touch with a wrecker or garage that has a few mopars kicking around.
Last resorts - try your local auto trader magazine or penny saver type newspaper. Or check out the back lot of some of your local small time repair garages. Some guys tend to specialize in Mopars and they will collect vehicles that couldn't be fixed for what the owner was willing to spend.....
Later,
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Some guys tend to specialize in Mopars and they will collect vehicles that couldn't be fixed for what the owner was willing to spend.....
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Penn Dick,
I have a friend who has a 67 GTX. He went to Mopar Nats in Columbus Ohio and Paid $300 for a console that he had to assemble and then have repaired. A speedo (stock) went for $450. We have a friend who deals in nothing but Mopar and have been to shows with him and seen him sell what I would consider junk for big bucks.
Thanks God we have many sources for our passions.
Bubba
I have a friend who has a 67 GTX. He went to Mopar Nats in Columbus Ohio and Paid $300 for a console that he had to assemble and then have repaired. A speedo (stock) went for $450. We have a friend who deals in nothing but Mopar and have been to shows with him and seen him sell what I would consider junk for big bucks.
Thanks God we have many sources for our passions.
Bubba
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Having just gone through this of finding parts. I learned the ones specializing in mopars want a lot of money for the parts. I got prices around $600 from them with the parts pulled.
I posted on a Texas truck board asking if anybody would know of a potential junk yard that might have what I needed as the salvage yards in my town had nothing. I got a response and found a place that had a few parts. Turned out to work out pretty well they had a 76 charger and all the parts are in good shape. Paid $340 for all (originally quoted $450) and the parts were pulled for me. Didn't get the strut rods though, either I didn't see them or they weren't there.
If you look at my old post here I got some very good advice after I got sticker shock
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hreadid=180276
edit: If you will go and look at the old cordoba you found there are information on the web so you can decode the vin and figure out which year it is.
I posted on a Texas truck board asking if anybody would know of a potential junk yard that might have what I needed as the salvage yards in my town had nothing. I got a response and found a place that had a few parts. Turned out to work out pretty well they had a 76 charger and all the parts are in good shape. Paid $340 for all (originally quoted $450) and the parts were pulled for me. Didn't get the strut rods though, either I didn't see them or they weren't there.
If you look at my old post here I got some very good advice after I got sticker shock
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hreadid=180276
edit: If you will go and look at the old cordoba you found there are information on the web so you can decode the vin and figure out which year it is.
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I called another junkyard today and he has a few of them and he is gonna give me anything that i want off of the front that i want for only 100 bucks! and i pull it. so i am gonna go and pull it on friday and i guess i can have my choice of which one i want to tear into so i guess i will get some choices.
thanks Matt
thanks Matt
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i went to that salvage yard today and found the car sittin on the ground with no wheels and cars piled on top of it!!so i left and went to another one and found a 79 cordoba that is in pretty decent shape and they are gonna charge me 225 and they are gonna pull it for me too, so i thought that was an allright price for it but the crossmember that i have to buy from gibbons, is that a rear member that the torsion bars connect too or is that for the front?well thanks
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i just thought about another problem that i have is that i took a rough measurement of the cordoba and the frame was about 37 inches accrosswise and my truck measures about 31 inches!!!!i think i might have a major problem and i hope that anyone can help cause they are not gonna pull this till moday and i hope that this is supposed to be like this but any help would be great!!
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Matt,
1. The stock front track width of the Cordoba has no bearing what-so-ever on what you'll end up with on your truck, so don't worry about it.
2. You will be getting two cross members from Gibbons - one is basically identical in principle and appearance to the usual MII cross-member kit and one is to receive the rearward end of the torsion bars.
3. It is important that you get the sockets from the Cordoba as well. These are the sockets that are in the rearward cross-member that the rearward end of the torsion bars fit into.
I believe we listed every single thing you need in the portion of the IFS article that dealt with the Cordoba alternative. If not, then likely in the more detailed thread that deals strictly with the Cordoba alternative - "Pro's & Con's of the Cordoba IFS" dated approx. 9/30/03.
Matt - contact me via email, I will you some stuff that will make your wrecking yard shopping fool proof.
Regards,
1. The stock front track width of the Cordoba has no bearing what-so-ever on what you'll end up with on your truck, so don't worry about it.
2. You will be getting two cross members from Gibbons - one is basically identical in principle and appearance to the usual MII cross-member kit and one is to receive the rearward end of the torsion bars.
3. It is important that you get the sockets from the Cordoba as well. These are the sockets that are in the rearward cross-member that the rearward end of the torsion bars fit into.
I believe we listed every single thing you need in the portion of the IFS article that dealt with the Cordoba alternative. If not, then likely in the more detailed thread that deals strictly with the Cordoba alternative - "Pro's & Con's of the Cordoba IFS" dated approx. 9/30/03.
Matt - contact me via email, I will you some stuff that will make your wrecking yard shopping fool proof.
Regards,
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Matt,
I just noticed you only have 12 posts, so you can't use the forum email function. If you can't find my real email address in my profile (it is there) then take the spaces out of this -
the_fergusons @ sympatico.ca
Regards,
I just noticed you only have 12 posts, so you can't use the forum email function. If you can't find my real email address in my profile (it is there) then take the spaces out of this -
the_fergusons @ sympatico.ca
Regards,