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Dec 28, 2003 | 01:22 PM

93fordlighttruck

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5 speed probs

i have a 93 ranger 5 speed, i replaced the clutch about 4 monthes ago, and recently it has become difficult to shift gears. i replaced the transmission fluid, and double checked the clutch master cylinder but everytime i try to shift, i get a grinding noise, with effort i eventually get into gear but sometimes i have to shut off the engine to shift into first when i am at a light, does this mean the trans is going out, or is it that a mistake was made putting the new clutch in???

Dec 28, 2003 | 01:59 PM

Dealford

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Welcome to FTE 93fordlighttruck.
First apply the "KISS" rules.
Is the clutchs' hydraulic system working properly?
Has the system been bled lately?
Is the sleeve that the slave/throw out bearing assembly moves on properly lubricated?
Have you tried pumping the clutch pedal before putting the trans in gear?

Dec 29, 2003 | 03:59 PM

4x4ranger01

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I had that problem when I first got my 01 Ranger edge 5 speed. It would grind and not wanna go in gear when i would shift into third and when i down shifted to third. It turned out that I had bad Syncronizers in the tranny so warrenty gave me a brand new tranny. I would check the tranny. Hope this helps.

Dec 29, 2003 | 10:21 PM

Hank85713

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Id say 2 real possibles here. 1 is a bad master or slave cylinder, maybe both you didn't say if you R&R them. 2d is that the pilot bearing is shot.

I just pulled my trans for a 5th gear R&R and the pilot bearing was toast. Scored the mainshaft but the shop was able to polish out.

so if you did not R&R the hydralics that is probably the main problem, so out comes the tranny again for the slave cyl, so while its out look at the pilot bearing, for around $15 replace it and add a little extra grease to it to boot.

The master is fairly easy to R&R, just time consuming to get bleed unless you do as I do, but that is something we can help with later.

hank

Dec 30, 2003 | 06:52 AM

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what is the easiest way to bleed the system, someone else did it when the new clutch was put in

Dec 30, 2003 | 09:57 AM

Hank85713

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It is supposed to be a gravity bleed of the system at the slave. If you have air in the master it really is a pain to bleed it out. Here is how I bleed the master:

inside the cab, pull the starter interlock from the clutch rod, disconnect the rod from the pedal arm. You will see a circlip in the master over the piston. Pull the circlip, pull the piston till just the air and a little fluid escapes, pump the master a couple of strokes repeat the above, reasemble than bleed per the manual, open the bleeder and let gravity bleed. Might have to bleed the bleeder a couple of times, biggest thing is the air in the master.

Make sure the resevoir stays full or you will into air into the system.

A lot of folks blame the slave, but the master is also a likely culprit.

Last edited by Ken00; Dec 30, 2003 at 12:31 PM.

Dec 30, 2003 | 02:03 PM

racsan

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i had a similar problem with my old '88 ranger, turned out one of the hub dampner springs broke, and a peice of it was between the pressure plate and clutch disc. this was with a 2.3 motor. dont know why it happend, stock clutch had gone 145,000 with no problem. i only changed it for "insurance" since i had the motor out for an overhaul. never buy a relined disc iguess.