Ok guys, this doesn't have anything to do with Ford as you can tell. We're working on a 3010 in the shop and need to know if the metal on the fender behind the lights is green or black like the lights are. Also, what year did JD switch from "classic" green to what they are using now? Can't remember if it was when they went to the ''10'' series back in the 60's or the thousand series in the 90's. If anyone is bored enough to read this bs and doesn't care that this really isn't the site to ask it on, any help would be helpful.

 

fenders are black we have a lot of those POS deers at my dads shop, i no 3010's fenders are black, some advice for the owner would be to buy a NEW HOLLAND

 

get an international harvestor!

 

stick with green, i think it was in the 60's they changed colors but im not sure i dont think it was in the 90's but it could have been.

 

What's this???? A John Deere ain't bad and you know it. Granddaddy has had his 4230 Quad-Range Diesel since new in 1976 and JUST had it overhauled last year for preventive maintenance, with no trouble from the original engine. He sold his IH 464 because the transmission burned up in it. He replaced it with a John Deere 5205 with the Sync-Shuttle option.

We still use Farmall 140's for the light work but they are really cranky in cold weather and are not very reliable, and haven't been reliable since Granddaddy retired from tobacco 11 years ago.

All a New Holland is now is just a Case-IH with blue paint. Not much of an improvement if any.

I'd take a John Deere over anything, then a Allis-Chalmers, then a Ford/New Holland, then a IH, then a Massey. The Case New Hollands just don't hold up the reputation that the Ford/New Hollands did.

I believe the colors changed in 1975, when JD went from the round body 10-series to the Quietline series with the more squared-off/boxy look. The light green was before then, the darker green was after.

 

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Its not Case/New holland , its just New holland, they produce the , MC, TS, TM, and the all new TG, and TJ series Tractors, and having used them all summer and used deers i would really pick the New holland do the the push button speed shift tranny, and yes, deer has some pretty DAMN good tractors that hold up, but in the new market, deer no longer dominates in my opinion, to check out the series of tractors my dads stores page at www.gobrownco.com

 

Is this 3010 eqipped with the row crop fender or the other type? The row crop fender has 2 headlights mounted in a flat panel with a handle above them? The fender is green and the flat panel is black. The other fender is all green with a black universal type headlight. As for the John Deere being a pos... I guess its all in what you like, kinda like Ford-Dodge-Chev. thing. I have 5 JD tractors, 3 8640's, a 4430 and a 4230. All are good tractors. I'm a 3rd generation farmer on here and there has never been anything but green iron on our place. I know there are other brands, and they may be good, but at farm sales, the green one will consistantly bring more money.

 

What is going on john deere 3010,3020etc are IMHO some of the
best Tractors ever my uncle has 3 and I love them plus I work on a farm
and we have international harvestors 666hydro,70hydro
and they suk and the fact that IMHO New holland transmissions are crap.

 

You can't find any parts for Case, New Holland and International around here. The dealers all went out of business. Only dealers you'll find around here are John Deere and Caterpillar and Kubota. Actually, New Holland was bought out by Case-IH in 1999.

I do like the old Ford 8 & 9Ns, as well as the Ford 3000's and the Massey Ferguson 135 and 165, but other than that, its all John Deere. These new John Deeres are an improvement over the old ones, and from experience on my Granddaddy's farm are by far the most reliable tractors out there of any brand. And like stated above, they hold their value better than everything else.

 

I am a seventh generation farmer, and my newest tractor is an International Harvester 1086. My dad bought the tractor new, and other than regular maintenence and one major overhaul twelve years ago, it has been the model of reliability. I also own a Farmall Model B Culti-Vision that my great-grandfather and grandfather bought new. This tractor will start in any weather, and delivers outstanding performance. I completely rebuilt the engine two years ago and found that it was still within factory specs. I have owned Ford tractors (most notably a TW-40) and had no problems with any of them, also.

I bought a John Deere 4440 at a farm sale once, and was told that it ran fine. They started it up, and it missed terribly. Well, I bought it anyway, figuring that I could rebuild it fairly cheaply. I spent about 3 months working on it, along with a good deal of cash, and could'nt get it running right. A trip to a John Deere dealership did'nt set it right, either, and I ended up selling it for what I had bought it for. After that fiasco, I swore off green forever.

I have no problem getting IH parts or finding mechanics who can work on them, even for my Model B. They are, by and large, easy to operate, simple to work on, and economical to run. And while it boils down to an individuals preference in the end, it has been my experience that John Deere tractors are not "the finest in the field".

My opinion. Not meant to start any feuds.

 

I don't want to work hard enough to get a farm tractor, but I do have a l'il 'ol John Deere 350 dozer that has treated me right grading my roads and clearing the woods for 6 years now. These durn alders grow like weeds, ok firewood but gotta keep at it. Is the old model, with dry clutches, that hasn't given a spot of trouble. PM-it before break-it. A ranch I do a little work on has a Farmall A, seems ok for a little tractor.

This forum http://www.ytmag.com/jd/wwwboard1.html has pretty good paint, parts & repair info too.

 

oooo nooo u didnt just say kabota, i hate those japenese things, i would drive a deer anyday over a Kabota, and CAT makes some damn good things and correction New holland bought Case, not case bought New holland

 

I looked out my kitchen window earlier today and it looked like it was painted black to me, but I didn't actually walk up to it.

 

Aren't the little John Deeres made buy Yanmar anyway?

 

its case new holland, their 3 places here now have CNH signs, and they closed the foundry when new holland bought them, chinese castings are cheaper

I was just in part of the old massey harris/massey ferguson ruins.....they are getting ready to tear it down, the big water tower still has the M-F logo with 3 triangles, 20 years after they closed, the boiler house is a tour de jour tho it has about 3 feet of frozen water in lowest room

During WW2 they stopped building tractors and built tanks

farmall culti vision b's are great tractors so are most all 86,06,56,60 series....i didnt really like the 66 series, and i have replaced alot of torque amplifiers tho it is a neat feature