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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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4.10s or not???

Currently got 3.55s, I have a 1993 F150 302 5.0L 5spd. 4x4 supercab.

I tow a 24ft. travel trailer, I'm a little over my wieght rating for my tranny. If I havd 4.10s, it wouldn't be a problem, room to spare. my trucks pulls it great. took it on a 2k miles trip this summer, no problems other than a hose busting. But......long term, I want to keep this truck for a while. Just spent $900 on a new slave cyl. and heavy duty clutch. I know my tranny is the wink link. We will go on 5-8 trips this year with the trailer, probably a total of 1500miles. Got a quote from a diff specialist $1300 total. Shop has a great rep.

Waddya think? I currently tow at 60-65 in 4th, if I had 4.10s could I tow in 5th? I just don't want to raise my rpm too much in 4th if 5od doesn't work.

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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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You won't want to tow in 5th gear anyways with a M5OD so I wouldn't bother with the 4.10s. Personally I wouldn't tow with a 302, I would consiter getting a 3/4 ton with a 351.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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What gears do you have now?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 07:53 AM
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Do the 4.10's they'll make a noticable difference in towing abilities. I wouldn't use 5th gear when towing your camper though.
I tow a boat and a camper with a 302 and gears helped out alot and contrary to belief it tows just fine, it ain't a Powerstroke but it gets the job done.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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Got 3.55s

95 F150, Yep, I agree. Some ridicule the 302, I love it. Does a great job towing. think I will do the 4.10s.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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what about 3.73
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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3.73s only make about a 100 RPM difference from 3.55s, not worth the cost of conversion.

The weak point of the 302 is that, compared to the 300 or the 351, it needs to turn revs to make torque. Go for the 4.10s. You may want to scour the boneyards lookig for an F250 and get the ZF out of it. That would give you a much stronger box and a much lower 1st gear to get that camper moving. Plus with the ZF you have enough strength to tow in OD. I'm not sure what exactly is involved in the swap, I'd guess driveshaft surgery and some crossmember mods.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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StrangeRanger,

Thanks. Know anyone who has done the ZF Conversion?
 
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i wouldnt sware to it as ive never done a gear swap but that price seems a little steep. what do u other guys think?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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I had a 1/2T with 4:10 gears, 5 speed with a 302 and routinely pulled a 24 foot trailer. Normally I would also have 3 dirt motorcycles in the box also. Pulled about 1000-1200 miles per year on average. No problems and I thought it did a good job. I always used fourth as my top gear when pulling.

Biggest problem for me was the boarder line braking ability which I really did not notice until I went to a 3/4 T.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Mines a 94 302 until the 408 is ready. Towed my boat last week (5400 lbs) for 1st time with this truck. Was suprised how well it did though. I have 4.56 with 35's on it. Dont forget that it sucks down more fuel with those gears in there too!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Take it from someone who has a 302 with 4:10 gears.....love them.....won't every have another truck that doesn't have at least 3:73's......towed a flatbed cartrailer with a 1986 CJ7 at 55 mph up a 4 mile 6% grade......can't beat that.....

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