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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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Hi !

At First: Sorry for my English, I'm a German

I have a problem since yesterday. I drove and want to shift in the next gear, push the clutch, shift, let the clutch come and the motor are hauling. I thought i was in the wrong gear and push the ne clutch again and the motor stands.

I cant start beacuse I have no ignition. All consumer that need 12v over ignition dont work. No glowing, no wipes, no electrical windows, no cranking of the motor.

The Motor starting relais is OK but it becomes not the 12v to work, when i turn my ignition Key.

Where is the problem ? The fuses left below the steering wheel are all ok. What can i check next ?

Did anyone have an electrical plan of the ignition ?

Thanks and I hope everyone can understand my question.

Greets, Pierre
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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Do you have exterior lights?

Headlights, taillights, brakes, turn signals?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Headlights, Hazard Flashers, Brake lights are ok.
But all what working over the 12v ignition dont work. The motor starter ralais themself is ok but not get the 12v start signal to work.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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Check out this :Chilton's

Follow the directions and you should be able to find a wiring diagram for your vehicle.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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Hmm, when i see it right i must pay there for a look in the wiring diagrams....thats not that what I want....can anybody scan the pages that I need and send it to me via mail ?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Check the yellow wires at the ignition switch for 12v. If you don't have that, look at the fusuble links on the starter relay.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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That was not a pay per use site YJeeper. It is totally free I use it lots. Good luck
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by stepman
Check the yellow wires at the ignition switch for 12v. If you don't have that, look at the fusuble links on the starter relay.
Hi !

Where I can find the ignition switch ? Is it a box on the (I dont know the word exact... i try to explain it) tube where the steering wheel is mounted ?

Only yellow or has there an second color ?

Thanks and greets, Pierre
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by mcanik
That was not a pay per use site YJeeper. It is totally free I use it lots. Good luck
Hi !

I cant access to this database........he told me something about an cgi database error and when I go back, he want an username and a password.

Can you take a screenshot from the things that I need and mail it to: pierre.duckert@t-online.de ?

It's a 1991 Ford F250 with 7,3l Diesel, Regular Cab 4WD

Thanks and greets, Pierre
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by stepman
Check the yellow wires at the ignition switch for 12v. If you don't have that, look at the fusuble links on the starter relay.


The above picture is of a gasoline model but the fusible links should be in the same place.I siuspect one of the brown ones may be causing your trouble. one of the 2 brown fuse links are for the ignition circuit.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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Nice pic mcanic. Yes, the switch should be on top of the tube thing (steering column).
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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I suppose I coulda cleaned it a bit.........lol
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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No, seriously, that was a nice pic.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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wiring

goto this link

http://www.cybrrpartspro.com/Chilton...28CH06_63.HTML
 
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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@mcanik

Thanks for this pic ! In the cables are fuses ? Oh, oh......american cars......and then in germany )

I get out the ignition switch and I have only 5,2V at the 2 yellow cables. Then i searched for the reason and can't find anything. Then i see this pic and went again out to controll the fuses and as i want to cut the first open i see that one of 4 cables is broken (the inner looks out). The 4 cables go in 1 bigger cable. Tomorrow I fix this cable and hope my Ford is running

Thanks @all here at this time. I hope this was my last Topic to this...
 
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