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Any of you put one of these on your 10? If so, which make did you go with and did it give you ANY result other than making noise? I have a project coming up where Ill need to pull a steep grade, bed loaded and a Bobcat once in a while. I think the truck is capable but would like to *bolt on* a few mods to give me a touch more torque, if there is such a thing?
Yeah, there is. Headers, cat back exhaust, a chip, and intake. Also, a good tune up never hurts. Thats about all I can think of for cheap. Relatively cheap that is.
Don't forget an larger throttle body. You can create a "poor man's FIPK" easy, drop in a new throttle body, add a set of headers, and if money permits a chip/programmer. Talk about added power, and I have yet to loose any MPG as a result of my mods.
Maybe I should have said cheap and easy. Cheap being a total cost of about 500/700. The *plan* is in the spring, around March, to put a supercharger on it. Just have to see how the money flows and goes at that time. Right now, things are kind of Christmased out to be spending much on the truck.
I thought I'd start with the intake. Is that one thing alone going to show me any result at all? Then I would move to exhaust, chip etc. I thought I understood some of the guys here that put on headers have lost bottom end. That's what I will be needing most of, low end torque.
Just a thought, why do an intake now if you are going s/c in a couple of months? Odds are the intake won't work with your s/c and you'd basically be throwing $$$ away. I'd go with headers and/or cat-back if you are serious about going s/c in the near future, then maybe the TB if you got cash left over. Wait on the chip also, even if your s/c kit doesn't come with a chip of its own you'll want to get a custom one burnt after the s/c install for sure.
If you place some venturiis in the headers you will regain the low end and still have a free flowing exhaust. I contacted Borla about these headers, installing a SC and loss of low end. They advised the venturiis to be installed at the y-pipe connection. I got the power band back where I need it and 0verall driveability was not effected.
Originally posted by HeavyAssault Ed Bis thinking smart!!
If you place some venturiis in the headers you will regain the low end and still have a free flowing exhaust. I contacted Borla about these headers, installing a SC and loss of low end. They advised the venturiis to be installed at the y-pipe connection. I got the power band back where I need it and 0verall driveability was not effected.
I just ordered some Borlas for my 03 CC F350 -- What do the venturis look like (could I make some) or where can I get them. I need the torque to tow my 34ft 5th wheel.
Yup, Ed is thinking smart. However, the problem there is, I need the extra torque now, not in the spring IF and when I charge it. That is why I don't want to spend much over 500 or so on it now. This project starts in mid January and will be over by the time I get a supercharger....IF I get one at all. C?
DShira: I got mine from Borla. I called their tech line and they shipped them for free!!
hang10: Well you would need to get a chip or programmer to really feel a difference. An intake isn't going to give you what you can feel when towing.
Reading through the posts again, you could try the throttle body and intake kit. I'm sure you will feel some gains there. The TB will run $340 and the intake is almost the same. You can stay under $500 with just the TB and mod your intake adding a K&N drop-in filter.
I thought about chipping it. I haven't read a lot of good from that though. It apparently works better in Diesels than in gas. I searched the subject and a lot of guys are saying there is very little, to no difference.
I have a KN intake with the Y exhaust pipe replaced anda gold chip in my 03 CC v10 (the programmer was not available in July for 03 truck) and did not feel much torque/ HP improvement but the trans shifted better, more firm. mileage around town was 11.5. I now have a programmer and tried the performance and tow performance settings and mileage dropped to 10.2 with no better acceleration that I could tell. So I've' gone back to the 87 octane setting and get 11.5 again. I have the trans shifting set for SuperChips setting which seems firm enough but will need to tow to know for sure. Don't think the programmer is worth it myself. I'm installing Borla headers after Xmas.
Heavy Assault--I called Borla and was told the Venturis were for mufflers and were not tested for the v10 headersand he didn't suggest using the venturis. Do you think the SC with the Borlas was more of the torque loss? Not sure what to do now
DShira: I had talked to someone at Whipple and discussed with them my truck. They said with headers there would be a low band rpm TQ loss. This is common with headers and with a SC I would probally never feel it. SO I called Borla to discuss this low band thing and how to fix it. Venturiis were the answer. I got a few strange looks at the exhaust shop when I asked them to put them in. I can say it made a difference. That low band loss was gone and the truck really pulls hard in 1-2 through the entire band. I'll have to wait till I gat home to look up the name ( if I have it written down) of the person I talked to about the headers.
I have done quite a bit of mods. For making HP & TQ there has to be a few things done to our trucks. I would love for you guys to drive my truck, to see the difference in acceleration and power.
I'm away from home right now, and in the future I have several other tricks I'm working on. A custom PCM, not a chip or a programmer, a custom program on the PCM. I have found some roller rockers that may work for the V10s, just waiting on a response.
HeavyAssault -- Thanks for comments - I'm bet the venturis do the sameas the reverse cone mufflers on a 4 stroke bike- Learned about them back in the 50s on Mustang motorcycles - They worked better than an open cone design for off the line torque.
I'm Looking forward to anything you find out for the v10 - may try a SC at some time.