FX4 or 4x4?
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I think we have the same opinion - There are some slight changes that can be made - We need to move on those changes fast. If your paying 40K for a truck it oughta be configured accordingly.
The Super Duty rocks - lets see a few changes to really make it rock. I am going to start a new thread.
The Super Duty rocks - lets see a few changes to really make it rock. I am going to start a new thread.
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Originally posted by truckman
Well business is about today not yesterday. So perhaps Ford has done some good things to advance the standards on their trucks.
Well business is about today not yesterday. So perhaps Ford has done some good things to advance the standards on their trucks.
And it looks like you did an excellent job in cutting and pasting someone else's numbers into you next responce.
I agree, driving a full time 4WD is a waist of gas and money. The F150 has and most likely will remain the best selling vehicle in the U.S. I have an F-350 that is a POS and I'm dealing with it. Having 20" rims doesn't make it better or worse.
I can see your head is clouded with negativity towards Ford so I'll leave my responce as you see it.
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Well Alfie, I have a Masters of Business Administration and that information was taken directly from my research and report. I have a 20 page paper if you would like to do some reading.
And no I dont have a negative cloud about Ford - I want to see them raise the bar.
And no I dont have a negative cloud about Ford - I want to see them raise the bar.
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Originally posted by Kannata
Oh yeah, FX4 vs. 4X4.
Get the Camper Package, it has the sway bars and steering damper, and it's about a $50 option. Alternatively, the snow plow package will work, but it will give you a pretty harsh ride up front.
Oh yeah, FX4 vs. 4X4.
Get the Camper Package, it has the sway bars and steering damper, and it's about a $50 option. Alternatively, the snow plow package will work, but it will give you a pretty harsh ride up front.
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From: Newburgh, NY
Originally posted by truckman
Well Alfie, I have a Masters of Business Administration and that information was taken directly from my research and report. I have a 20 page paper if you would like to do some reading.
And no I dont have a negative cloud about Ford - I want to see them raise the bar.
Well Alfie, I have a Masters of Business Administration and that information was taken directly from my research and report. I have a 20 page paper if you would like to do some reading.
And no I dont have a negative cloud about Ford - I want to see them raise the bar.
I'd also like to go over all the trucks with you and I can point out what does work and what doesn't work from an Engineering perspective and that would explain Ford's continued dominance. Take a look a any of the large scale contractors and construction firms and make note of their fleets. These are the guys that try to get the most for thier money. I'm sure you can count on left hand how many have a fleet of Dodges.
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Hmmmm, I could of sworn it was on there, maybe a US vs. Canada difference?
Anyway, I'd look at trying to get it without the X-springs. For a daily driver, I think they'd get a little harsh.
Been a while since I was at the build and price site, so I'm really not sure how Ford is packaging things these days.
Sorry for the misleading info.
Kannata
Anyway, I'd look at trying to get it without the X-springs. For a daily driver, I think they'd get a little harsh.
Been a while since I was at the build and price site, so I'm really not sure how Ford is packaging things these days.
Sorry for the misleading info.
Kannata
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From: Richmound, SK, Canada
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There are underlying implications to the tax code that makes Ford a better seller than Dodge. It really has nothing to do with the quality of the truck.
There are underlying implications to the tax code that makes Ford a better seller than Dodge. It really has nothing to do with the quality of the truck.
Can you explain?
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Originally posted by truckman
There are underlying implications to the tax code that makes Ford a better seller than Dodge. It really has nothing to do with the quality of the truck.
There are underlying implications to the tax code that makes Ford a better seller than Dodge. It really has nothing to do with the quality of the truck.
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There is no complexity to it. It is an old tax code that helps businesses acquire and keep their heavy equipment. The weight of the vehicle gives businesses a bigger write off. If the vehicle is over 6,400 like the F250 you get a much larger percentage off of your business tax. The weight of the Dodge doesnt match the F250 therefore does not have as much demand in the business world. Its called a Section 179 deduction and the weight of the vehicle plays into the percentage you can get back on taxes. Thats why there are a bunch of folks buying SUV's that are over that weight.
I will let you have that info for free - I dont give up my work for free - but hey I will give you a tidbit here and there.
I will let you have that info for free - I dont give up my work for free - but hey I will give you a tidbit here and there.
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That's simply not true.
As far as I know, it's based on GVWR, not the actual weight of the vehicle. Any truck from the big 3, 3/4ton and up, qualifies to the best of my knowledge. Besides that, they all have very similar ratings and net weights.
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As far as I know, it's based on GVWR, not the actual weight of the vehicle. Any truck from the big 3, 3/4ton and up, qualifies to the best of my knowledge. Besides that, they all have very similar ratings and net weights.
Kannata
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"Now, the SUV's have grown so big -- they're also over that 6-thousand pound gross weight." Under the new law -- a person who buys a 110-thousand dollar Hummer --- can write off as much as 106-thousand dollars in the first year -- so long as the vehicle is used full time for business.
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp...3&nav=15MaKsT2
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp...3&nav=15MaKsT2
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Go to the dudge and chebbie sites and look up their gross weights, they'll be within a couple hundred pounds of the Ford.
Again, I would suggest it is based on manufacturer's GVWR, NOT the actual net weight of the truck on a scale.
It may be a tax scam, but it isn't the reason Ford dominates fleet vehicle sales.
Kannata
Again, I would suggest it is based on manufacturer's GVWR, NOT the actual net weight of the truck on a scale.
It may be a tax scam, but it isn't the reason Ford dominates fleet vehicle sales.
Kannata