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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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I jsut think that alot of people out there really are unsure of what they can do to change things. Contacting your local, state and federal leaders is a very powerful way to do it, it takes time and sometimes doesn't change a thing but then again sometimes it has had good outcomes. The best way to do that is to find a coalition that is gear towards the things you are trying to change and helping them out. "many voices are louder than one"
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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In Georgia the cost is about the same for an S corp as an LLC, plus I can have share-holders and most importantly, dividends (not possible with an LLC) that are taxable at 15%. My next corp will be a Nevada corp. The mob really knows how to design asset protection for Nevada corps --- heck, they allow anonymous shareholders!
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by fsnco1
I jsut think that alot of people out there really are unsure of what they can do to change things. Contacting your local, state and federal leaders is a very powerful way to do it, it takes time and sometimes doesn't change a thing but then again sometimes it has had good outcomes. The best way to do that is to find a coalition that is gear towards the things you are trying to change and helping them out. "many voices are louder than one"
The only way for our current fiscal problems to be resolved is through "tough love" policies. We need to stop thinking of Seniors as dog food-eating poor people and pave their retirement with our gold. They're not poor, they represent the wealthiest segment in the US. But who wants to cut off Grandmom's SS or Medicaid, or Senior Discounts at WalMart or close the locally funded Senior Center?
I WOULD...in a heartbeat, but not because I'm cruel towards the elderly, but because I'm more protective of the young. This is a ZERO SUM game. When someone wins, someone else loses. I don't want my kids supporting me or anybody other than those that they chose to support. If we don't end this vicious cycle of dependency, we'll have the world's largest non-functioning leviathan and we'll all suffer because we were too chicken to make tough decisions in the past.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by fsnco1
I jsut think that alot of people out there really are unsure of what they can do to change things. Contacting your local, state and federal leaders is a very powerful way to do it, it takes time and sometimes doesn't change a thing but then again sometimes it has had good outcomes. The best way to do that is to find a coalition that is gear towards the things you are trying to change and helping them out. "many voices are louder than one"
You're absolutely correct on that. Writing or emailing your elected officials, unless it happens to be a major issue where volume is a factor, has little effect on their decisions. That area is reserved for special interest groups and campaign contributors.

It does provide a certain level of personal satisfaction getting it off one's chest and I find that it helps propel me in the right direction to determine whether or not I want to expend additional energy in pursuing the issue. Especially since most elected officials at the national level have changed to cumbersome website forms used to check your votor registration status.

Most people quit the chase when money, in the form of contributions, is required. If you're realistic and truly believe in a group attempting to block or change an issue, even a tiny amount goes a long way in accomplishing goals.

I might add that even a small campaign contribution to your favorite political candidate(s) puts you on a different list in his database. Hopefully the one he uses to poll his/her constituents on sensitive issues. Regardless of your political affiliation, it all revolves around money.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by webmaster
In Georgia the cost is about the same for an S corp as an LLC, plus I can have share-holders and most importantly, dividends (not possible with an LLC) that are taxable at 15%. My next corp will be a Nevada corp. The mob really knows how to design asset protection for Nevada corps --- heck, they allow anonymous shareholders!
That's a big business here, simplified to the point of accomplishing it through the Secretary of State's own website. If you don't require a dividend feature, the LLC fits nicely inside trust vehicles and to hold them, is equally anonymous and handy for distributing taxable income to lower tax bracket individuals.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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Re: Exactly

Originally posted by jpsartre12
I have 3 kids, two of whom are voting age and exercise that privledge. They are probably more conservative than me on many issues, but I've stressed one issue to them for years. Dad's rant: "Don't let the current politicians give away your future. Vote as a block against the AARP, other Senior groups and liberals because THEY are your enemy. All three of them want you to make their lives more comfortable today by mortgaging your future. Don't let them. Don't let them expand the size of the Federal Government, Social Programs or increase your taxes. Anyone who tries to do so should be voted out of office, regardless of their party affiliation."
I just wish that more of today's younger voters had parents that educated their kids similarly. Unfortunately, the reality is that parents don't talk politics with their kids and the only people who do are liberal educators that are part of the problem.
Congradulations!!
I don't know you, but I can say you are doing aleast one good thing as a Dad. I'm part of what use to be called generation X. My public school taught none of this issue. The info. is out there to be had but I had to go lookingfor it. I know many people my age that don't care to find the info.
I'm not sure where I'm going with this. I quess I wish more people were aware of the issue and cared enough about it to make a change.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Re: Re: Exactly

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Congradulations!!
I don't know you, but I can say you are doing aleast one good thing as a Dad. I'm part of what use to be called generation X. My public school taught none of this issue. The info. is out there to be had but I had to go lookingfor it. I know many people my age that don't care to find the info.
I'm not sure where I'm going with this. I quess I wish more people were aware of the issue and cared enough about it to make a change.
I'm trying. My kids are my most valuable legacy. I'd like them to be healthy, wealthy and wise long after I'm gone. Since you're a Gen Xer, talk to your peers, you're being fiscally raped and it'll only get worse.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Exactly

Originally posted by jpsartre12
I'm trying. My kids are my most valuable legacy. I'd like them to be healthy, wealthy and wise long after I'm gone. Since you're a Gen Xer, talk to your peers, you're being fiscally raped and it'll only get worse.
I agree. Fortunally my folks and my inlaws had the foresight to plan ahead. I don't have to worry about putting them through a home or funding their retirement. They are much like yourself. They taught my wife and I to be responsible adults, that are fincally responsible and not to depend on others for assistance. Of coarse that meant to plan ahead and be ready for the lean months by saving during the fat months. My families future is up to me. I don't have to worry about what I will or will not recieve from the Government or anyone else. I can thank my parents for that. I only wish others felt the same way, taught their children the same values.

JP we share many of the same opinions. I am glad to see that I am not alone in my thinking. Keep up the good work as I will be following your advise and talking to my peers about the country we will soon inherit.
 
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