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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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I've been researching the various paints by PPG and HOK and I have no clue what I need. It can't be too expensive, no more than $40/qt. I know I want a base/clearcoat that's quiet durable and that will last for a long time. I'm leaning toward a metallic candy applish red. PPG (which I'm leaning torwards as they have a distributor within 5 miles of me) has the Delta and omni paints which I am looking at. What does it mean when they're "outta the dust in 30 m minutes"? From what I understand, I need a grease reemover, a sealer, a primer, a base coat, and then a clear coat. Anything I'm missing? I'm gonna take my time on the paintjob and try to make it look GOOD! Thank's man.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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I'm not Aekisu but:

Out of the dust is meaning that the product is tac free, any dust that falls on it wont stick. Basically it has skinned over.


I think you pretty much have the list down. Dont forget tack cloths, use them after you preclean, LIGHTLY, to remove any lint that maybe left over from pre cleaning. You should use the tack rag wearing your latex gloves which you put on before you pre cleaned. PPG is a good product line. I have only sprayed it on the rare occasion, I mainly use HoK paints in my PinStriping and Murals now, but when I did collision repair i used DuPont, Nason (also DuPont), Sherwin Williams, Sikkens (high dollar).


Aekisu I'm not trying to intrude, just offering my opinion.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Appreciate it...How good of a quality is Sherwin Williams? I'm gonna try my best not to skimp out on anything. What would a brand and peticular line of paint that you reccomend?
 

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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Sherwin Williams is okay Adesa Auto Auction in neighboring lexington Ky, uses it on their repairs.

PPG i have very limited knowledge of, thou have seen some high dollar cars painted with it (67 Shelby mustang for one)

Omni - a offbrand of PPG I beleive. if its like the offbrand of DuPont its a good product.

DuPont - I prefer DuPont but that is the system I was taught to paint with so its second nature.

Nason - Knock off of DuPont by DuPont, About half the cost and all the quality in the product. Some of the colors are alittle off for blending, but in a all over paint job it wont matter.

HoK (House of Kolor) - Like John Deere and Snap On your buying the name. Yes they have a excellent product, but the main difference is in the colors, they are more for the custom end of the painting field, what I am doing now. For Murals, pinstriping, and totally custom paintwork, using things like Kandy Koncentrate, Ice Pearls, Kosmic Glo, Dry Pearls, Stuff likethat.


I would look into Omni or Nason personally
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 03:11 AM
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Aekisu I'm not trying to intrude, just offering my opinion.
Hey, not a problem. I missed this post. Must be getting old(er).

Omni is a 'value' line that PPG puts out. That means its cheaper. Never used PPG or Omni but lots people have and are happy campers. If you decide to go with Omni, you might consider buying a higher quality clearcoat. It's been said the higher quality clear has better UV holdout. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.

Red is one of your most expensive colors.

I'm mainly a user of Diamont. Started using it and have stuck with it. I particularly like the fact that it's UR40 reducer can be used in just about everything I spray. That includes the epoxy (R-M EP series), any 2K primer, basecoat and clearcoat. I mix and match products (which is a no-no) to get the best price I can get. Of course, if a customer wants top of the line, that's what he gets.

Your best option is probably to go with PPG since that is what you have in your area. If you need support or additional product, you'll be able to get it. By the way, buy all your basecoat at the same time and mix together any containers so there is no color match problems.

Most vendors will be able to quickly give you a bid. That way you can get a comparison between their top of the line and their value line.

Metallics can be tricky for a first time painter. You can easily end up with mottling or 'tiger striping'. Buy some extra paint to practice with.

Don't be afraid to ask questions. There's a vast amount of knowledge here.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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Crap...my tranny went out, I'm about to tear into it to see what the problem is, hopefully I can fix it without pulling the tranny outta my truck.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Ouch doesnt that suck. Hope its nothing too serious!
 
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