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Keep the Bush/Cheney ticket
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New Vice President?
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New Vice President?
The Bush/Cheney ticket appealed to a lot of people in 2000 because of the inexperience some viewed in Bush. Has that equation changed?
It seems that if the Bush administration has a swirl or even a hint of scandal surrounding it, Vice President Dick Cheney is in the midst of it.
Cheney's health issues are on the back burner for now, but if the current administration gets re-elected, Cheney will be four years older and health problems could reemerge.
Do you think Bush should keep the ticket or should he select a new veep?
It seems that if the Bush administration has a swirl or even a hint of scandal surrounding it, Vice President Dick Cheney is in the midst of it.
Cheney's health issues are on the back burner for now, but if the current administration gets re-elected, Cheney will be four years older and health problems could reemerge.
Do you think Bush should keep the ticket or should he select a new veep?
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I think he is obligated to keep the ticket as is. Cheney has been a very distant VP. No one ever really knowing where he is. When was the last time he was in the news? He could have dead three months ago and no one would know.
The point I'm trying to make is Bush is doing well with him not really in the picture, so why stir things up. Changing VPs now would only put doubt in the minds of voters.
The point I'm trying to make is Bush is doing well with him not really in the picture, so why stir things up. Changing VPs now would only put doubt in the minds of voters.
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Originally posted by dono
If Chaney goes, the average IQ of the administration decreases considerably.
Dono
If Chaney goes, the average IQ of the administration decreases considerably.
Dono
But, I don't think that I'd call GW's IQ average. Harvard and Yale and a fighter jet pilot are hardly things easily tackled by people with "average" intelligence.
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Intelligent people are sometimes frozen into inaction by over-analyzing and out-thinking a problem, for sure.
I think Cheney has had a very large presence in the administration.
I think Cheney has had a very large presence in the administration.
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Originally posted by jpsartre12
So what, Carter was extremely intelligent, so was Clinton and look at their presidencies. Both were disasters.
But, I don't think that I'd call GW's IQ average. Harvard and Yale and a fighter jet pilot are hardly things easily tackled by people with "average" intelligence.
So what, Carter was extremely intelligent, so was Clinton and look at their presidencies. Both were disasters.
But, I don't think that I'd call GW's IQ average. Harvard and Yale and a fighter jet pilot are hardly things easily tackled by people with "average" intelligence.
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He has played a large role in the admin, but he hasnt stepped into the spot light, he knows it wouldnt help.
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Originally posted by jpsartre12
So what, Carter was extremely intelligent, so was Clinton and look at their presidencies. Both were disasters.
But, I don't think that I'd call GW's IQ average. Harvard and Yale and a fighter jet pilot are hardly things easily tackled by people with "average" intelligence.
So what, Carter was extremely intelligent, so was Clinton and look at their presidencies. Both were disasters.
But, I don't think that I'd call GW's IQ average. Harvard and Yale and a fighter jet pilot are hardly things easily tackled by people with "average" intelligence.
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671
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Originally posted by billsco
Intelligent people are sometimes frozen into inaction by over-analyzing and out-thinking a problem, for sure.
I think Cheney has had a very large presence in the administration.
Intelligent people are sometimes frozen into inaction by over-analyzing and out-thinking a problem, for sure.
I think Cheney has had a very large presence in the administration.
Very correct
He is behind all the scenes, and needs to remain with the administration
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From: Detroit Subs
Originally posted by jskufan
Here's an interesting article as long as we're talking about pilots.
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671
Here's an interesting article as long as we're talking about pilots.
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671
"Our principal funding comes from the Florence and John Schumann Foundation"
A quick search of this and you find:
"The Florence and John Schumann Foundation
33 Park Street
Montclair, NJ 07042
Telephone: (973) 783-6660
Fax: (973) 783-7553
email: not published
Website: no website
Type of foundation: Private
1998 Assets: $90,976,760
EIN: 22-6044214
Exempt since May 1966
EGA Member
Description: Rabidly anti-capitalist donor led by media icon Bill Moyers."
http://www.undueinfluence.com/schumann_foundation.htm
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Originally posted by jpsartre12
Interesting read. Now see where TomPaine.com's financial backing comes from:
"Our principal funding comes from the Florence and John Schumann Foundation"
Interesting read. Now see where TomPaine.com's financial backing comes from:
"Our principal funding comes from the Florence and John Schumann Foundation"
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From: Detroit Subs
Originally posted by Ryan50hrl
Exactly what part of the Clinton presidensy was a disaster other than his "affair".....and do we discredit JFK or Roosevelt for their affairs as we do Clinton?
Exactly what part of the Clinton presidensy was a disaster other than his "affair".....and do we discredit JFK or Roosevelt for their affairs as we do Clinton?
http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc.html
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/legacy.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1114285.stm
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