Thanks for getting back to me on the surging problem. The forum won't let me E-mail you since I'm a new user.. Spam policy.. My vin # is 1FTNX21F8YED69851

 

OASIS RESULT:
1FTNX21F8YED69851
12/09/2003
10:29:04
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION
2000 F-SERIES BODY STYLE
F-250 SUPER CAB 4X4 ENGINE
7.3L TURBO - DI ENGINE CALIBRATION
TRANSMISSION
4R100 4SP (DIESEL)
GENERAL WARRANTY INFORMATION
WARRANTY START DATE 08/11/2000
BUILD DATE 05/12/2000
SALE MILEAGE 00005
OUTSTANDING FIELD SERVICE ACTIONS (RECALLS)
NO CAMPAIGN MESSAGE(S) FOUND
EXTENDED COVERAGES
NO ESP INFORMATION AVAILABLE
REPAIR HISTORY
NO REPAIR HISTORY ON VEHICLE

SYMPTOM CODE INFORMATION
612000 - DRIVEABILITY SURGE

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14184
IMPROVED ENGINE DIAGNOSTICS
SOME 1999-2000 SUPER DUTY F-SERIES, ECONOLINE AND 2000 EXCURSIONS EQUIPPED WITH 7.3L DIT ENGINE MAY EXHIBIT ONE OR MORE DRIVEABILITY SYMPTOMS, INCLUDING; RUNS ROUGH, MISSES, BUCK/JERK, HESITATE/STUMBLE, SURGE, LACKS POWER, VARIOUS IDLE SYMPTOMS, MIL ON ETC... TO SERVICE, REPROGRAM THE PCM WITH THE LATEST SERVICE RELEASE CALIBRATION. THE LATEST CALIBRATIONS CONTAIN IMPROVED MAP HOSE AND WASTEGATE DIAGNOSTICS. A REVISED CALIBRATION FOR CYLINDER CONTRIBUTION TEST AND EXHAUST BACK PRESSURE (EBP) TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF EBP VALVE SURGING IS ALSO CONTAINED IN THE LATEST CALIBRATION. NOTE: DO NOT REPLACE #8 INJECTOR TO UPDATE THE "CACKLE" REPAIR (TSB 00-10-01) FOR ANY SYMPTOM OTHER THAN ENGINE NOISE. REPLACEMENT OF THE #8 INJECTOR IS NOT AUTHORIZED FOR NON-NOISE DRIVABILITY SYMPTOMS REPAIRS.

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13724
REVISED CHARGE AIR COOLER CLAMPS
SOME 1999-2000 SUPER DUTY F-SERIES EQUIPPED WITH 7.3L DIT ENGINE AND THE CHARGE AIR COOLER (CAC) MAY EXHIBIT OIL LEAKS AROUND THE CAC TUBE ON THE HOT SIDE OF THE COOLER (DRIVERS SIDE OF THE VEHICLE NEAR THE INTERCOOLER) OR A REPEAT CONCERN WITH THE TUBE BLOWING OFF. TO SERVICE OIL LEAKS REPLACE THE CAC CLAMPS WITH REVISED SPRING CLAMPS, YC3Z-6K786-BA AND YC3Z-6K786-DA AND IF THE TUBE HAS BLOWN OFF, REPLACE THE TUBE ASSEMBLY WITH YC3Z-6C646-AA ALONG WITH THE NEW CLAMPS. THE NEW SPRING CLAMPS WILL ACCOMMODATE THERMAL EXPANSION CAUSED BY THE HIGH TEMPERATURE OF THE DUCT.

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618400 - DRIVEABILITY IDLE - ROLLING IDLE

SPECIAL SERVICE MESSAGES
17268
1994-2003 MULTIPLE VEHICLES WITH 7.3L DIT - IDLE ROLL/LOPE ON COLD START
SOME 1994-2003 SUPER DUTY F-SERIES/E-SERIES AND 2000-2003 EXCURSIONS EQUIPPED WITH THE 7.3L DIT ENGINE MAY EXHIBIT AN IDLE ROLL/LOPE ON COLD START THAT LASTS UP TO ONE MINUTE. THIS CONDITION IS CONSIDERED A CHARACTERISTIC OF THE 7.3L. THE FOLLOWING STEPS CAN BE TAKEN BY THE CUSTOMER TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THIS CONDITION: CHANGE TO A 10W-30 OIL (XO-10W-30-QSD) LABELED CI-4 OR CH-4; PLUG IN THE BLOCK HEATER WHEN OUTSIDE TEMPERATURES ARE GOING TO BE BELOW 30F (-1C); LEAVE THE IGNITION IN THE RUN POSITION FOR A FULL 2 MINUTES SO THE GLOW PLUGS CAN FULLY HEAT THE CYLINDERS BEFORE CRANKING THE ENGINE.

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16464
1994-2003 SUPER DUTY F-SERIES, EXCURSION EQUIPPED WITH 7.3L - COLD START ROLLING IDLE
SOME 1994-2003 F-SERIES SUPERDUTY AND EXCURSIONS EQUIPPED WITH A 7.3L DI DIESEL ENGINE MAY EXHIBIT AN IDLE ROLL/LOPE WITHIN THE FIRST 10 SECONDS UPON COLD STARTUP, WITH NO ASSOCIATED DTC'S. TO SERVICE, FOLLOW THE PCED DIAGNOSTIC SYMPTOM CHART FOR RUNS ROUGH: IDLE. IF THE CONDITION IS STILL PRESENT CHANGE TO A 10W30 ENGINE OIL RATED CG4/SH OR BETTER (MOTORCRAFT NUMBER XO-10W30-QSD) FOR VEHICLES OPERATED IN AMBIENT TEMPERATURES LESS THAN 90 DEGREES F ONLY. SOME VEHICLES MAY STILL EXHIBIT THIS CONCERN AFTER USING 10W30 ENGINE OIL. ENGINEERING IS CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING THIS CONCERN.

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690000 - DRIVEABILITY PUBLICATION REVISIONS/UPDATES


13548
IDLE KICKER ACTIVE AFTER 130 SECONDS
THE 1999.5 (DECEMBER 1998 AND AFTER) 2000-2001 SUPER DUTY F-SERIES TRUCKS AND 2000-2001 EXCURSIONS EQUIPPED WITH THE 7.3L DIT HAVE A STRATEGY THAT INCLUDES A COLD WEATHER IDLE KICKER FEATURE WHICH, UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS WILL AUTOMATICALLY ELEVATE THE IDLE SPEED AFTER 130 SECONDS OF IDLING AT COLD TEMPERATURES. THIS FEATURE RAISES THE IDLE SPEED UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 1200 RPM, BASED ON AIR CLEANER INLET TEMPERATURE AND THE ENGINE OIL TEMPERATURE. FOR THIS FEATURE TO BE ACTIVATED, THE TRUCK MUST BE IN PARK, (FOR THE 4R100 AUTO TRANS), OR IN NEUTRAL WITH PARKING BRAKE APPLIED (FOR M6OD MANUAL TRANS) AND ENGINE OIL TEMP BELOW 70 DEGREES CELSIUS. (CONTINUED ON 13549)
13549 IDLE KICKER ACTIVE AFTER 130 SECONDS (CONTINUED)
(CONTINUED FROM 13548) IF ANY PEDAL OR CONTROL IS MOVED, THE ENGINE RETURNS TO BASE IDLE SPEED AND THE TIMER STARTS OVER. THIS STRATEGY RAISES THE RPM LEVEL TO THE POINT WHERE THE EBP (EXHAUST BACK PRESSURE) WORKS AND WARMS UP THE ENGINE. THE INTENT IS TO ALLEVIATE THE TENDENCY (COMMON TO ALL DIESELS) TO PRODUCE "COKING OR WET STACKING" WHEN IDLED FOR PROLONGED PERIODS AT COLD TEMPERATURES. NOTE: THESE HIGHER IDLE SPEEDS WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON FUEL CONSUMPTION. THIS WILL ALSO CREATE A "WHOOSHING" SOUND ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTIVATION OF THE EBP, THIS IS A NORMAL CONDITION.

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03-21-38 1999-2000 VARIOUS VEHICLES: ENGINE - 7.3L DIT - HIGH INJECTION CONTROL PRESSURE READINGS - ENGINES BUILT AFTER ENGINE SERIAL NUMBER 896812

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99-26-09 FUEL ECONOMY - CUSTOMER EXPECTATIONS VERSUS VEHICLE USAGE: CUSTOMERS MAY PERCEIVE THAT VEHICLE FUEL ECONOMY IS LOWER THAN IT SHOULD BE, BASED UPON (EPA) ESTIMATES. FUEL ECONOMY IS MOST INFLUENCED BY VEHICLE USAGE AND DUTY CYCLE. CONSULT THIS TSB AND SHARE WITH CUSTOMERS.


END OF OASIS REPORT FOR 1FTNX21F8YED69851

 

Thanks a ton.. That list of stuff describes just what it's doing.. I'll hand this to the dealer when I walk in the door!! I really appreciate the help.. Shep

 

Once again if the dealer would just take the time to check they would have a satisfied client. Is it that difficult a concept????

 

fm Emtabmm
But it is a dying concept. And for those companies and their employees who do manifest concern, one can do very well.....in any business..

 

Thanks, emtabmm! So....it looks like if I keep the truck plugged in at under 30*F, change to 10W-30 oil, and make sure to let the glow plugs do their job, then that should eliminate the surging and not cause any future problems hopefully. No colder than it gets here in NC, probably plugging in the truck more religiously will do it for me.........

 

emtabmm, Sorry I haven't gotten back with you. I got the flu. They pulled the injectors out to put new o rings on and check. Found six bad and two that totally failed. Several g/ps bad also. Still an expensive repair. I had the new wiring harnesses put on as a preventive messsure. Was told it was a matter of time and that I was real lucky we got hit with the cold weather and it was in my driveway and not in Wyoming! I have alot of miles on ol' Gray and I knew it was getting close to injector overhaul time so I can accept the repairs. I'll get the VIN for you but right now I'm off to the kitchen for chicken soup.