Remote start
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jan 2015
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From: SE Michigan
When something is free, you’re the product.
Its shocking how much data manufactures collect from modern cars, and even more disturbing how much they could collect if they were so inclined.
its only a matter of time before insurance companies get on board and the manufactures start feeding them with driving telemetry. Or even law enforcement.
im sure it’ll come in the name of “common sense” safety reform…
Its shocking how much data manufactures collect from modern cars, and even more disturbing how much they could collect if they were so inclined.
its only a matter of time before insurance companies get on board and the manufactures start feeding them with driving telemetry. Or even law enforcement.
im sure it’ll come in the name of “common sense” safety reform…
Last edited by roadpilot; Nov 11, 2025 at 02:57 PM.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2023
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From: McKinney, TX
When something is free, you’re the product.
Its shocking how much data manufactures collect from modern cars, and even more disturbing how much they could collect if they were so inclined.
its only a matter of time before insurance companies get on board and the manufactures start feeding them with driving telemetry. Or even law enforcement.
im sure it’ll come in the name of “common sense” safety reform…
Its shocking how much data manufactures collect from modern cars, and even more disturbing how much they could collect if they were so inclined.
its only a matter of time before insurance companies get on board and the manufactures start feeding them with driving telemetry. Or even law enforcement.
im sure it’ll come in the name of “common sense” safety reform…
The future is now.
If you go into the connectivity menu, there is a checkbox for 'insurance connectivity' (or wording to that effect.)
Further, in the ceiling console, there is a camera and microphone recording you as you drive... with the final product only available to law enforcement, or others so designated.
Laughing Gas
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From: McKinney, TX
It's not tin foil hat stuff... it's a bigger question about how much the Government, and others, can intrude into your life.
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Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jun 2018
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From: Wasilla, AK
This is why I asked the question because our new Camry just turned 1 year old and now Toyota wants $25 a month to continue the service to use the remote start.
Tuned
Joined: Jun 2017
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From: Indiana
I deleted both the apps when I sold my Ram truck but I'm pretty sure I could start my wife's Wagoneer in the app.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: DFW
I don't drive like an idiot, but I do drive for a living. I don't need anyone analyzing my driving habits, and adjusting my insurance rates because of it. Further, I consider it an intrusion of my privacy. You say you don't care what data they collect... how do you know if you don't know what data they are collecting?
It's not tin foil hat stuff... it's a bigger question about how much the Government, and others, can intrude into your life.
It's not tin foil hat stuff... it's a bigger question about how much the Government, and others, can intrude into your life.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2023
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From: McKinney, TX
This is true. It's not tin foil hat; everything in this vein is done for one reason: control. Starlink, fiber optic expansion, security cameras, smart tv's, vehicle monitoring, it's all done for one thing: control. It's all pointing toward a socio-economic score for individuals and households. Just hide and watch.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: SE Michigan
Laughing Gas
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From: NE Ohio
I still have a Chrysler Pacifica and we cannot use the app to start without an active Uconnect subscription.
Cross-Country
Joined: Jan 2018
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From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Toyota's connected services — which allows for remote start and locking — is indeed subscription based after a free trial (my Tundra was 3 years, but it might be just one year now), but you can still remote start with the key fob after the trial.
Last edited by dekeman; Nov 15, 2025 at 04:21 PM.
Laughing Gas
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From: Florida
Where exactly is this camera?
Fleet Mechanic
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From: SE Michigan
I'm married so the only person who can ever get in control of me is already present. If anybody else tries to get in control of me, they'll be sorry. Not sure how many times I have to say IDGAF before some people realize that IDGAF.
Laughing Gas
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From: McKinney, TX
I misspoke... my bad. Looking back through the owners manual, it has what is, essentially, a black box... a data recorder for driving parameters They can access after an incident, not unlike an aircraft's data recorder. I read through the manual when I got my truck in 2023, for some reason I had it in my mind it had video and audio as well.