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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 02:05 PM
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which gas cap?

I am having an issue on my truck with what seems to be a pressure situation causing some leaking in the vent tube going back to the gas cap area

I have a 1978 truck but with an aftermarket tank that does not have the vent tube for the Evap system any longer. the other day i was driivng the truck and everything was good until i got on the gas hard a few times and then when it was sitting I notced gas dropping from the connecting joing on the vent that goes back towards the cap itself. i am assuming the cap I have is no good anymore or the wrong type.

Should I be using a vented or non-vented gas cap with my setup?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 04:10 PM
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Rule of thumb is that you need a vent somewhere - if the tank is vented to air or to a carbon cannister, you use a non-vented gas cap. If you have an unvented tank, you need a vented cap.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 04:12 PM
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Did you do the tank swap? Do you know what cap is on it? So if you had evap, but no longer have it, you likely need to run a vented cap. A vented cap still will let air in to let the pump pull fuel out for engine use. I am not understanding where your dripping is though, isn't the vent pipe you see under the gas cap anyway. If you mean a hose leaks, maybe it's cracked. Maybe what you saw was just some slosh after ******* it with a full tank.

I think I read that the inlet where the cap attaches is somehow different vented vs non-vented? My '77 has a vented cap, no evap, and to get fuel out air has to be let in, but even a vented cap keeps fuel in.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 04:50 PM
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Did you do the tank swap? Do you know what cap is on it? So if you had evap, but no longer have it, you likely need to run a vented cap. A vented cap still will let air in to let the pump pull fuel out for engine use. I am not understanding where your dripping is though, isn't the vent pipe you see under the gas cap anyway. If you mean a hose leaks, maybe it's cracked. Maybe what you saw was just some slosh after ******* it with a full tank.

I think I read that the inlet where the cap attaches is somehow different vented vs non-vented? My '77 has a vented cap, no evap, and to get fuel out air has to be let in, but even a vented cap keeps fuel in.
Yes it was leaking at the connection joint fo rthat longer thinner vent line that goes back towards the cap..the reason i am thinking my cap is part of the problem is #1--it si OLD..lol..and #2 when I remove the cap and kept driving the truck it stopped leaking
 
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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 04:51 PM
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this is what is on the truck now

Fuel Tank Cap For 1977-1979 Ford F100 1978 P585RQ Regular Locking Fuel Cap  | eBay
 
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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 05:34 PM
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Well, IF you shut off or blocked any EVAP, you'll need a vented cap of sorts. It'll still build a little pressure, as fuel from a cold gas station ground tank warms up in a truck tank out on a roadway. Mine is vented, it will let a slow pressure rise escape, but if a sudden slosh, like roll over, will shut. It always lets air in, is a Stant # 10749 but mine being a '77 without EVAP ..... it may not fit yours.
 
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Vented fuel cap...yes.
 
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Originally Posted by tbear853
Well, IF you shut off or blocked any EVAP, you'll need a vented cap of sorts. It'll still build a little pressure, as fuel from a cold gas station ground tank warms up in a truck tank out on a roadway. Mine is vented, it will let a slow pressure rise escape, but if a sudden slosh, like roll over, will shut. It always lets air in, is a Stant # 10749 but mine being a '77 without EVAP ..... it may not fit yours.
That is actually an issu eI had when i tried to use a vented cap...because it also allows air in the tank I came out after 2 days and had a huge puddle of gask under the tank where the pressure pushed it past the o-rin for the sending unit

Not sure itf it matters but I also have a Holley eletric fuel pump on the truck
 
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Old Sep 6, 2025 | 04:49 PM
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That is actually an issu eI had when i tried to use a vented cap...because it also allows air in the tank I came out after 2 days and had a huge puddle of gask under the tank where the pressure pushed it past the o-rin for the sending unit
Might been a weak seal, uneven or bent hole, etc. It is aftermarket, and you did away with EVAP as I recall, Reads like the cap worked.


 
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These are ac tual pics of my real cap and where the gas was leaking at...There was a very slight gap in the circled area I corrected this weekend


 
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Cap looks like it got dropped AND run over a few times. It seams to have been working though. In you picture, I drew a RED circle, looks like that clamp is some loose too. Maybe needs to be moved an 1/8" towards the end of rubber and tightened where not on the bulge.
 
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Originally Posted by tbear853
Cap looks like it got dropped AND run over a few times. It seams to have been working though. In you picture, I drew a RED circle, looks like that clamp is some loose too.
I will make sure to double check that one!

And yes that cap is VERY old, was ont he truck when I got it and never really even checked it out until i started modding the truck and having issues.
 
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Like everyone has said, if you have a no other vents to the tank, you need the earlier vented cap. It looks to me like you have the non-vented cap, the one that only lets air in, not in AND out. I have the same style on in my Bronco. I too thought the earlier caps had the lugs that hold it in the filler tube in a slightly different position so the caps wouldn't swap as easy. Anyway, I think the real clue is the vent tube crossed over from one side to the other. I think that means your filler and tank don't match. I thought when they switched from evap to non-evap, they switched which side of the filler tube the vent tube runs on. So maybe your truck used to be evap and had a non-evap tank installed..
 
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Old Sep 8, 2025 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cwegga
Like everyone has said, if you have a no other vents to the tank, you need the earlier vented cap. It looks to me like you have the non-vented cap, the one that only lets air in, not in AND out. I have the same style on in my Bronco. I too thought the earlier caps had the lugs that hold it in the filler tube in a slightly different position so the caps wouldn't swap as easy. Anyway, I think the real clue is the vent tube crossed over from one side to the other. I think that means your filler and tank don't match. I thought when they switched from evap to non-evap, they switched which side of the filler tube the vent tube runs on. So maybe your truck used to be evap and had a non-evap tank installed..
Yeah the truck most definitel was evap originally..the PO from me installed this tank since all the evap stuff was removed long before
 
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