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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 01:49 PM
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Gooseneck

At what point is having a gooseneck raised to much?
The wonderful R&R folks decided to redo the train crossing. Now as you can see, I have roughly 1/2” of clearance before the trailer frame slams into the top of the tailgate when I cross over. The horse trailer is empty at this point. Yes, I can go around and take a 5 mile detour, but still…
On level ground the truck and trailer are fairly level to each other and I have about 6” or so between the trailer frame and top of the tailgate.
Would it be a bad thing to lower the gooseneck sleeve about 4-5” or even more ?

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Pictures are from google and show the incline.

 
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 03:04 PM
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In that video it looks like the tailgate hit, on the right side.

I would raise it up unless it creates too much of an angle for level towing.

Otherwise I would detour.

 
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 03:07 PM
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Someone should set up a web cam so we can see tractor trailers getting stuck on the crossing and trashed by trains.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 03:17 PM
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There is plenty of those videos on YouTube including explosions.


As far as the OP, I was always told 7 inches when level is absolute minimal clearance.


I lifted my last trailer a little so I had around 1ft clear. Next one I will probably raise the neck misc instead but you can’t do that with your enclosed trailer.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 03:45 PM
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How much you should raise the front of the trailer also depends on the trailer axle type. I had to raise mine 4" to get into a few spots. Aside from looking a bit odd with the front of the trailer high, I have triple torsion axles and it was putting too much pressure on the rear axle to run fully loaded. Spring suspension trailer axles can usually articulate and balance the load a little better.

If you catch a box corner on a turn in one of these situations, you'll be real sad. I got both of mine and the tailgate corners not paying attention in a place I thought I had plenty of clearance. $10K+ estimates for two new box sides and the tailgate. I also had 6-1/2" of clearance on the flat to that particular trailer. I finally went to a flatbed to get away from the clearance issues of these tall new trucks to the lower goosenecks of the older trailers.



 
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 04:03 PM
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I 2nd that the coupler height is really dictated by the trailer axles. As the trailer becomes unlevel you are putting unequal pressures on the axles/tires which will cause issues. The front axle becomes lighter then the rear axle/s thus locking up the front axle wheels becomes easier then locking the rears. And as the rear axles has more pressure on it you could overload the axle/bearings/tires. It is a delicate balancing act.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Henfield
Someone should set up a web cam so we can see tractor trailers getting stuck on the crossing and trashed by trains.
The pics are from google. I’ll try and get some new ones. The asphalt is all tore the heck up from low boy trailers dragging across the tracks.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2025 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by longhaultransport
In that video it looks like the tailgate hit, on the right side.

I would raise it up unless it creates too much of an angle for level towing.

Otherwise I would detour.

The way the kid was holding the camera was a little too low. It definitely did not hit the top of the tailgate, but it was close.
 
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Originally Posted by 406f150
How much you should raise the front of the trailer also depends on the trailer axle type. I had to raise mine 4" to get into a few spots. Aside from looking a bit odd with the front of the trailer high, I have triple torsion axles and it was putting too much pressure on the rear axle to run fully loaded. Spring suspension trailer axles can usually articulate and balance the load a little better.

If you catch a box corner on a turn in one of these situations, you'll be real sad. I got both of mine and the tailgate corners not paying attention in a place I thought I had plenty of clearance. $10K+ estimates for two new box sides and the tailgate. I also had 6-1/2" of clearance on the flat to that particular trailer. I finally went to a flatbed to get away from the clearance issues of these tall new trucks to the lower goosenecks of the older trailers.



Dangggg that sucks! That’s my biggest fear
 
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Here’s a pic of the truck and trailer. It’s a used trailer We just picked up a few weeks ago. I don’t remember if it has torsion axles or leaf springs.
 
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Originally Posted by F450_Platinum
I 2nd that the coupler height is really dictated by the trailer axles. As the trailer becomes unlevel you are putting unequal pressures on the axles/tires which will cause issues. The front axle becomes lighter then the rear axle/s thus locking up the front axle wheels becomes easier then locking the rears. And as the rear axles has more pressure on it you could overload the axle/bearings/tires. It is a delicate balancing act.

I knew the coupler height does have to do with how the trailer tows, but I didn’t know it went into such great detail.
 
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See if you can do an axle flip kit and there is a trailer tire made by GoodYear that is ~33” tall.

That might be good enough. 👍🏼
 
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Old Aug 2, 2025 | 05:55 AM
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Coupler height hasn't been helped by the way trucks have gotten taller and taller.

 
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My dads truck and gooseneck livestock trailer was set up nose high empty. Loade it was pretty much level .worked out good
 
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Originally Posted by Henfield
Coupler height hasn't been helped by the way trucks have gotten taller and taller.
Flatbed.

Get the right truck for the job.
 
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