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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 04:01 PM
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First start up - Slow crank...aaargh

1955 F250 222 IL6 6v Positive ground

I went to start my engine today and it will barely turn over.

I have very solid grounds as best as I can tell. All 2/0 cable

Grounds:

-positive battery directly to block
-block to cab
-block to frame

negative:

2/0 cable to solenoid
2/0 cable solenoid to starter.

In the event the starter wasn't properly grounded I put a jumper cable from the bolt on the back of the starter to the main block ground connection.

I also have a 6v battery box 20amp boost charge connected.

Could an old solenoid cause it? It looks like the original solenoid. I have a new one if that is a possibility.

Bad starter?

When I was trying to get the gear to reset on the bench by spinning it up it never got going fast enough to reset the gear. I suppose it's possible I have a 12v starter?

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This is the starter I have.



 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 04:24 PM
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I Googled "ford l/s" and in one post it mentioned Ford L/S was a series of Ford truck from 1970 to 1998. That makes me wonder if that is a 12 volt starter.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 05:38 PM
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So I reviewed your pictures of the starter here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post21579190




That starter box has no part number on it, and the DW20LS doesn't match anything I can find.

It looks the part of the correct starter, but there are no readily available tells on if that is a 6V or 12V starter.

You can try to see if the starter behaves better on 12V as generally, you can always apply 12V to the starter ALONE by connecting an independent 12V power source to the chassis and (instead of a starter button) temporarily to the starter terminal (polarity of either system does not matter as it is independent). Just don't use the starter button (but DO leave the key in "run" so your 6V system powers the ignition system for spark) or you will backfeed 12V back through the starter relay and potentially cook 6V components.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 05:39 PM
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The label is 4 years old and when I search the Carquest website, that number and part is no longer listed. I can't verify the part or application there. When I plug in the year and model application the starter that does come up says 12v. That could be an issue. How long have you have the starter?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 05:43 PM
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Wayne, I think the ALB4450 is a shipping/inventory label suggesting it went through Albany NY on its way to/from Pittsfield, MA and not a part number.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 06:04 PM
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Open it up and count the field coils, I believe the 6 volt starter should have 2 coils and the 12 volt has 3. I could be wrong but that’s what I remember after many years ago working on them.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wellcraft17
Open it up and count the field coils, I believe the 6 volt starter should have 2 coils and the 12 volt has 3. I could be wrong but that’s what I remember after many years ago working on them.
Yes, that is true, but can be quite the effort.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 06:13 PM
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I have had it since 2021. I think it must be a 12v starter. Google Gemini (AI) says it is 12v and based on what you guys have found and said that is probably right. Will order a 6v tonight or tomorrow from Discount starter. They list 4 that will fit and it is hard to tell what makes any of them different.

Napa lists one as well without the bendix drive for $80 more but I might be able to get it quicker. I would have to find the video on how to remove the bendix drive properly as opposed to the way I did last time which was wrong.





 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 06:30 PM
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Don't trust AI. Here I gave it bologna part numbers and it confidently made assertations that make no sense:

 
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 07:49 PM
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I definitely don't trust it! But sometimes it can help validate other data points. I had actually asked it the same question 4 other different ways than the one I posted to see if I got the same answer and not any nonsense.

I don't trust anything that is produced by google or any other search engine or AI at this point. It is all just information to be sorted through.

I am thinking of getting a NAPA one if I can get it tomorrow so I have a shot at having it running with my son here.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bmoran4
Wayne, I think the ALB4450 is a shipping/inventory label suggesting it went through Albany NY on its way to/from Pittsfield, MA and not a part number.
That sounds logical. So there is no part number to cross reference unfortunately. The only real indication is the Ford L/S on the box which would suggest a later model year starter and therefore 12v.

I found a carquest starter on advance auto parts that is listed as fitting my truck but the specs show it as 12v. It looks like the one I have. I suspect when my neighbor ordered it they said it fit based on the "book" but didn't verify voltage.

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...=home_shipping
 
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 09:13 AM
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That's the one that came up in my search. For $678.99, plus core charge and tax, I'd rig up a hand crank first.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 09:27 AM
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There are lower priced alternatives out there:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...23s/99994412-P

https://www.discountstarterandaltern...rious-engines/

Amazon Amazon
 
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 05:30 PM
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I ordered a rebuilt by Ford one from Will McDonald. Part number B5C-11002A which should be the right one. I forgot to ask if it came with the bendix drive though. It was a little less than $200 with shipping and is a Ford part.

Hopefully that solves it.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 09:25 PM
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And people wonder why owners wish to convert to 12v.

I found a starter with bendix local same day for $85 for my '56.

8pack, your up-and-down adventures remind me of all my trouble getting my truck running for the first time--I didn't have any car people in my life and I was 19. I wanted to be a car guy so bad, i wanted to build HP, paint, road race....I had a lot of trouble getting that truck on the road...
 
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