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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 07:13 PM
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Scorpion roller rocker options?

Hello everyone. I’m working on my 95 f150 2wd 351w with gt40 remand heads and stock cam. Iv ordered a set of Scorpion 1.72 pedestal mount roller rockers. They should be here over the weekend. I’d really like to know what everyone has to say about the rockers. Good or bad? Reliable or maintenance nightmare? Guide plates or no guide plates? Any and all advice is appreciated
 
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 07:38 PM
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351W stock rocker ratio is 1.60. The upgrade for SBF is 1.7.
351C (Clevelands) and 429/460s use 1.73s as stock. Not sure what Scorpion rockers you're getting are actually 1.72s. whether or not they actually fit SBFs (221/255/289/302/351W) is open to discussion/debate...
 
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 08:13 PM
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351W stock rocker ratio is 1.60. The upgrade for SBF is 1.7.
351C (Clevelands) and 429/460s use 1.73s as stock. Not sure what Scorpion rockers you're getting are actually 1.72s. whether or not they actually fit SBFs (221/255/289/302/351W) is open to discussion/debate...
I realize I went up in valve lift by a tiny bit but I did some research and talk to someone on here that said they are using the same rockers I bought and he had no intention of selling them so he must’ve liked them and it’s such a small lift that it will not interfere with the piston head.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cougrrcj
Not sure what Scorpion rockers you're getting are actually 1.72s. whether or not they actually fit SBFs (221/255/289/302/351W) is open to discussion/debate...


Probably these

 
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 09:50 PM
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While the ratio may be close, the actual length of the rocker arms might be an issue. For example, Boss 429s had extremely different intake/exhaust rocker arm lengths, but the ratio was the same (like 1.5" to 1 versus 3" to 2...) If your pushrod/fulcrum/valve isn't right...


 
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 10:23 PM
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Probably these
These are the ones I got
These are the ones I got
 
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 11:41 PM
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You will need to measure for new push rods.
Probably need to grind the spring seats of the heads, so back to the machine shop.
You will probably need taller valve covers.
With taller valve covers, you probably will need to raise the intake.

Pretty sure guide plates are not for pedestal mount, not sure why you are asking that question.

 
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Old Jul 9, 2025 | 09:08 AM
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Pedestal mounts typically fit under stock tin. Did on my 5.0 and 4.9. 5.0 has Crane units and the 4.9 Scorpion

Smart to check where the tip hits the valve, can shim it if needed. The kit was about $20 for FMS shims.

You really should upgrade that cam, they are pretty weenie stock. You do not even need a big one to make a big boost in power all over. Lift will make more power, but not nearly as much as you are expecting.

EDIT - Stock springs pretty flaccid, best bang to me is the TFS kit for these heads. Pretty sure PAC makes them for TFS, good stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Pedestal mounts typically fit under stock tin. Did on my 5.0
Did not fit under stock covers on my1994 351w with 1.6 scorpions.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2025 | 10:27 AM
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Good to know, were they stud mount or ped?
 
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Originally Posted by wwhite
Did not fit under stock covers on my1994 351w with 1.6 scorpions.
The 1.72 fit under the stock valve covers on my ‘89 302


 
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Good to know, were they stud mount or ped?
Pedestal mount.

Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
The 1.72 fit under the stock valve covers on my ‘89 302
E7 heads.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2025 | 01:10 PM
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The metal core gaskets can help create more space under the valve covers as they act like a small spacer.

I fit Cranes 1.7:1 rockers under my stock valve covers on my 1996 with GT40p heads. Certainly not the same and OP will need to check themselves.
 
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Originally Posted by wwhite
E7 heads.
Correct and did not hit the baffles in the covers
 
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Correct and did not hit the baffles in the covers
Maybe mine hit because of cam lift and shims. Tall polished covers look better than the painted tin anyways.
 
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